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Kraise
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Post by Kraise » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:57 am

Oh...but.. what about this?
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=20788
You sure it has to be mostly anime/cutscenes o.o

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Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:05 am

Yes, I am. See this thread: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=63288. Exceptions may exist, like always. But can we be sure that guy is telling the truth in his comment?

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Post by Kraise » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:10 am

A 5-second clip of anime into a live action video does not make it an AMV
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well 40-49% of actual gameplay(doubt you'd use that much) is alot to work with, so it should work out.

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Post by [Mike of the Desert] » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:08 pm

The discussion in the end is interesting, rec a gameplay of a Jap game is surely effort, and try to create cutscenes by yourself surely is too.. But in the end, the rules are rules, so what Kraise said about the 49% is true, it's still accepted. Anyway, I'll contact Vlad, that's the best option I have. :D
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Post by mikestrife » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:36 pm

This is a pretty interesting discussion. Obvious there are tons of ways to look at it, but from my perspective:

It's pretty hard to say that in game cutscenes are any different from gameplay footage. I mean there's obvious gameplay footage(health bars and such on screen), or there's footage played/recorded/edited so it looks like an in game cutscene.

A good example is this great older video http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=6094 (looks like the link isn't working) the creator here used all in game footage of Smash Bros, but really played alot with the camera angles in game and cropped out the health bars making alot of it look like cutscnes.

Anyways, If the source is considered anime inspired like apparently SoTC is, then I would say just go for it.

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Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:47 pm

As I do most of the confirmations and this has been discussed between us mods & admins, I want to clearify a few things here as there seems to be quite a wide variety of opinions given.

The criteria is applied to confirming video games as Anime:

In order for a video game title to be accepted as anime, it must meet the following criteria:
• Games must be made in Japan under the control of a Japanese company.
• Games must be in the style and spirit of anime (not based on North American or other country icons).
• The game may premier outside of Japan so long as the above criteria is met.
Examples: Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi, Final Fantasy 7, Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence, Resident Evil

Games are a very fuzzy and grey area as they are ever evolving, so for now the above criteria is what we’ll use and re-evaluate it as required.


A few things to add to the above is that co-productions are fine so as long as the Japanese Company shares the creative rights (i.e. still has control and a say in it)... Again, in some cases a judgement call might be required depending on the situation.

In terms of how much and what type of footage from that game, there are no written rules. Suffice to say that as long as one or more sources meet the above criteria, you can use any part of the game.

In general, the idea is that there the video is in the spirit of anime and has some sort of feel to that effect. Pinning exact percentages of how much true anime footage in a video is hard and we don't measure it in an exact percentage. We like to be as flexible as possible but people should understand that having a few seconds/frames of anime footage does not mean that video is an AMV or that it is acceptable, otherwise this opens the door to people slapping a shot of anime just to host their non-anime videos here.

As I've mentioned before, If you really want to be absolutely safe, having 50% or more of confirmed anime sources in your video is the best bet, but that is not a rule written in stone nor does it mean if you have less that the video will not be considered an AMV...

Thus, if the video game source your using meets the criteria mentioned for your video, then it should not be any problem having it on this site.

Vlad
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Post by [Mike of the Desert] » Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:44 pm

You're a God, thanks truly a lot, this is the most clear answer possible, thanks a lot, a lot for your explanation.
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Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:48 pm

No Problem....

We are looking at updating some of the documentation to reflect all of this... for now acceptability criteria of anime is posted in the site announcement for reference... It's what we use at present. Just keep in mind we do the best we can to be as flexible as possible and it may be impossible to catch everything.

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