Opinion score relativity

godix · Post by **godix** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:32 pm

I agree that if the video looks bad then it should get a low video quality score. Just because you know why it looks bad doesn't change the fact it does. However you might consider modifying the effort score. Someone who used a DVD and only managed to get VHS type quality would certainly deserve a lower effort score than someone who tried to make their VHS source look as good as they could.

older_gohan · Post by **older_gohan** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:19 am

That's the problem if the person did their best with what they had you can't condemn them for it. They did best and obviously someone else couldn't do any better. So if they could only use VHS and they made it look as best as possible then it deserves a high score.

Saying that if it doesn't look as good as dvd quality is quite biased. Sure it's not going to look as good and infact probably never will but they did make it look their best.

Second I think AMV's should be graded on what certain things they have. Never tell a AMV maker they used the wrong song because according to them they did. Now sound quality, editing, and sync are important but saying that they should of used more effects, better clips, and a more original song is just wrong. They did with what they have. I've made most of my AMV's with movie maker and you can yell at me for it being out of sync cause I could of made it more in sync. But don't tell me to use more effects. I had no intention nor will I ever of using more effects. The video was intended to be made how it was. Go with what they have, not with what you want them to have.

madbunny · Post by **madbunny** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:26 am

older_gohan wrote:That's the problem if the person did their best with what they had you can't condemn them for it. They did best and obviously someone else couldn't do any better. So if they could only use VHS and they made it look as best as possible then it deserves a high score.

Well, no. There are subjective and objective elements to grading. the subjctive stuff like effort and reviewability are obviously going to vary from person to person, and change depending on your mood. Objective elements like video, and sound quality are pretty static. You pick a bar and compare everything to that bar. So the video footage can't be made to look as good or better than your chosen reference? Then you mark it down. It doesn't seem that complicated; judge what you see.

I'm not saying that video quality is the end all of videos (although it is a pretty big part), there have been videos that have absolutely abysmal quality that I still found myself liking for various reasons. I'm only saying that you should try to be consistent with the way that you grade videos.

older gohan wrote: Go with what they have, not with what you want them to have.

Er... yes. I sort of thought that was the point.

older_gohan · Post by **older_gohan** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:49 am

But the problem is if they could only use VHS you can't expect dvd quality. the fact remains you'll never get it. So you have to change the bar to what their video player is capable of outputting. If they use windows movie maker what's the best one you've seen? Use that as the bar.

Don't compare a windows movie maker video to a higher end movie maker cause your never going to get what you expect.

Eh either way like was said so many times grade what you see not what you wanted to see.