I´ve just seen the trailer of "I, Robot" with Will Smith. And while watching all these bikes, carchases, rougue robots and mean cops I thought... he, you´ve seen that before.
It had the same feeling like Bubblegum-Crisis 2040, or better AD police. Lots of action and a mean cop that dominates the streets (Leon/Will Smith).
While I have BGC2040 (boxed and fansubs), I don´t have AD-police. So, for the AD-police fans out there: I say it´s worth a try, isn´t it?
I, Robot vs. BGC2040
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pen-pen2002
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Re: I, Robot vs. BGC2040
WTF? Since when does "I Robot" have bikes and carchases? And isn't it a Short story collection? I don't have that particular book but I've read all but one or two of the stories in it from other anthologies and none of them were remotly like what this movie seems to be about.TheMadOne wrote:I´ve just seen the trailer of "I, Robot" with Will Smith. And while watching all these bikes, carchases, rougue robots and mean cops I thought... he, you´ve seen that before.
Asimov's stories are about the interplay of ideas and moral conflicts. Uniqe in it's square look at the popular cultures "Frankinstien Complex." Man, I don't even want to start...
I am really pissed off.
(Sorry to further derail the topic. The idea looks sound, play around with it and see if it works.)
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I was thinking of one using the audio to the first trailer, the one where they interrogate the robot and don't reveal it's a robot till he bangs his fist to the desk. Anyway. The idea was to use footage from Chobits and call it "CHI, ROBOT." You get the rest. THe only thing is I don't have enough of the series on DVD to do it.
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Otohime Mutsumi
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I, Robot is a series of short stories. But the movie has more incommon with the book than robots and the three laws of robotics. On one of the trucks, I saw the words U S Robots, The name of the company that makes the robots in the book is U S Robots. I heard the name Dr. Lanning in the trailer. Wasn't one of the scientists in the book named Dr. Lanning? I think that the Idea for the movie came from the book.
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It's been about seven years since I read "I Robot", but wasn't there a story in there with an investigation of whether robots were responsible for murders in some sort of industrial situation where they circumvented the then flawed First Rule by dropping someone to his death - letting gravity do the actual killing - hence the "or by inaction allow harm to come to a human being" portion of the First Law being added after the fact. It might nto have been in "I Robot" proper, but I'm pretty sure that something like that happened in one of Asimov's stories.
Somehow I don't remember "Bicentenial Man" being that bad an adaptation of "The Positronic Man". Obviously a lot of the details were changed (don't think they could have gotten away with those transperent future-clothes in a family movie), and I think it underestimated the intelligence of the audience by making things a little too obvious at points (then again, maybe I'm overestimating the intelligence of an average film audience as compared to the average Asimov reader), but at least I was able to recognize it and several elements of the story and theme as I watched it (I somehow missed the part with Andrew spitting out the Three Rules toward the beginning and thought it was just eerily similar to "The Positronic Man" until I got to the part with the wooden horse - which was too small yet important a detail to have been ripped off without giving credit. The thing that really bugged me is that, aside from a spot in the scrolling credits, Asimov wasn't ever really mentioned in the promotion of the picture, same as with the "I Robot" film.
I don't even know how the Foundation series could be marketable as a film without some grotesque exercizes of "artistic licence". It'll be hard enough to get Evangelion into a 2-3 hour contemporary American live-action film that will turn a profit worth the protest it'd likely cause if some of the key elements of the anime are retained (there's way too much violence and sexuality around those 14 year old kids for a film to be made here without changing either their ages (which would greatly affect the psychological plot) or their circumstances (which would also greatly affect the psychological plot, and the physical plot with it), not to mention the massive amount of out-of-context Judeo-Christian symbolism and mysticism) - and it comes with a military coup and giant fighting robots. Foundation would come off more like 2001 - with ample opportunities for pretty visuals and some great cerebral opportunities but not a terribly high proportion of scandal and high-speed action. In short, I think it might be a story left off of the screen considering its length, scope, complexity, and the fact that - unlike another incredably long, wide-ranging, and complex story that's done very well on film - it doesn't have sword-bearing Orc armies to hold the interest of those who don't want to spend several hours comtemplating the possibility of a deliberate human implementation of societal predestination and the consequences and ethics of throwing that plan off course. If general film audiences wanted that over flashy special effects and flawlessly coreographed fight scenes (which are cool, but have their place), the second and third Matrix films would have been berated for the gross wastes of a perfectly good concept that they were.
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Okay, back to the topic: You might want to clarify as to whether you're thinking of using the audio from the upcoming "I Robot" film, or just doing an AD-police video. I'll assume the first, since asking "would it be a good idea to make a video with [anime here] using some song I'm not mentioning or haven't selected" generally won't get much of a useful response anyhow.
I think it could be cool if you do it as a trailer. It'd probably be better to use the short TV trailer than the extended chase scene preview I saw the other day on one the televisions at the gym (no audio, but it ran for about ten minutes and I think I had a pretty good idea of what was going on and what Will probably sounded like), as it'd be easier to hold audience interest with the trailer theme and also easier to edit where you can go between scenes that don't have to come together as though they were all filmed as a continuous run.
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Ironically, Frankenstein was a surprisingly sensitive and complex book, and the 'monster' was much more sensitive, complex, and intelligent than was shown in the film adaptations... if you want to talk about a book that was hacked to death on the way to the theatres. I mean, the guy learned to read with a copy of Milton's "Paradise Lost". That's not exactly "see spot run". Now I understand that the main purpose of that little plot element was to point out the fact that, in Paradise Lost (depite Milton's own claims of trying to "justify the ways of God to man") Satan is a sympathetic character who was created and discarded by an unconcerned maker (at least for the first chaper, before Jesus steps in and tells his father to go easy on those rebelious humans while Satan acts out the first episode of Jerry Springer with his daughter/lover Sin and bastard chid Death entering a deathmatch at hell's gates), but, still, the original creation of Frankenstein wasn't a grunting beast (or green, or flat-headed...). Audiences didn't want a sympathetic antihero, though, they wanted a grunting beast. Then a bunch of moron kids decided that "Gothic" meant being covered in black clothes and white makeup and listening to Marylin Manson while mistaking him for a modern version of Neitzche - and the delicacy of the Victorian era's (yet another time of rapid technological development and social redefinition) gothic literature.
As to whether Satan or Death could actually kill each other (my money's on Death, considering his job description - but then Satan was already in Hell, so it's not like killing him would change anything)... Milton never lets us find out, having Sin step in at the last minute. At least if I remember everything correctly.
Somehow I don't remember "Bicentenial Man" being that bad an adaptation of "The Positronic Man". Obviously a lot of the details were changed (don't think they could have gotten away with those transperent future-clothes in a family movie), and I think it underestimated the intelligence of the audience by making things a little too obvious at points (then again, maybe I'm overestimating the intelligence of an average film audience as compared to the average Asimov reader), but at least I was able to recognize it and several elements of the story and theme as I watched it (I somehow missed the part with Andrew spitting out the Three Rules toward the beginning and thought it was just eerily similar to "The Positronic Man" until I got to the part with the wooden horse - which was too small yet important a detail to have been ripped off without giving credit. The thing that really bugged me is that, aside from a spot in the scrolling credits, Asimov wasn't ever really mentioned in the promotion of the picture, same as with the "I Robot" film.
I don't even know how the Foundation series could be marketable as a film without some grotesque exercizes of "artistic licence". It'll be hard enough to get Evangelion into a 2-3 hour contemporary American live-action film that will turn a profit worth the protest it'd likely cause if some of the key elements of the anime are retained (there's way too much violence and sexuality around those 14 year old kids for a film to be made here without changing either their ages (which would greatly affect the psychological plot) or their circumstances (which would also greatly affect the psychological plot, and the physical plot with it), not to mention the massive amount of out-of-context Judeo-Christian symbolism and mysticism) - and it comes with a military coup and giant fighting robots. Foundation would come off more like 2001 - with ample opportunities for pretty visuals and some great cerebral opportunities but not a terribly high proportion of scandal and high-speed action. In short, I think it might be a story left off of the screen considering its length, scope, complexity, and the fact that - unlike another incredably long, wide-ranging, and complex story that's done very well on film - it doesn't have sword-bearing Orc armies to hold the interest of those who don't want to spend several hours comtemplating the possibility of a deliberate human implementation of societal predestination and the consequences and ethics of throwing that plan off course. If general film audiences wanted that over flashy special effects and flawlessly coreographed fight scenes (which are cool, but have their place), the second and third Matrix films would have been berated for the gross wastes of a perfectly good concept that they were.
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Okay, back to the topic: You might want to clarify as to whether you're thinking of using the audio from the upcoming "I Robot" film, or just doing an AD-police video. I'll assume the first, since asking "would it be a good idea to make a video with [anime here] using some song I'm not mentioning or haven't selected" generally won't get much of a useful response anyhow.
I think it could be cool if you do it as a trailer. It'd probably be better to use the short TV trailer than the extended chase scene preview I saw the other day on one the televisions at the gym (no audio, but it ran for about ten minutes and I think I had a pretty good idea of what was going on and what Will probably sounded like), as it'd be easier to hold audience interest with the trailer theme and also easier to edit where you can go between scenes that don't have to come together as though they were all filmed as a continuous run.
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Ironically, Frankenstein was a surprisingly sensitive and complex book, and the 'monster' was much more sensitive, complex, and intelligent than was shown in the film adaptations... if you want to talk about a book that was hacked to death on the way to the theatres. I mean, the guy learned to read with a copy of Milton's "Paradise Lost". That's not exactly "see spot run". Now I understand that the main purpose of that little plot element was to point out the fact that, in Paradise Lost (depite Milton's own claims of trying to "justify the ways of God to man") Satan is a sympathetic character who was created and discarded by an unconcerned maker (at least for the first chaper, before Jesus steps in and tells his father to go easy on those rebelious humans while Satan acts out the first episode of Jerry Springer with his daughter/lover Sin and bastard chid Death entering a deathmatch at hell's gates), but, still, the original creation of Frankenstein wasn't a grunting beast (or green, or flat-headed...). Audiences didn't want a sympathetic antihero, though, they wanted a grunting beast. Then a bunch of moron kids decided that "Gothic" meant being covered in black clothes and white makeup and listening to Marylin Manson while mistaking him for a modern version of Neitzche - and the delicacy of the Victorian era's (yet another time of rapid technological development and social redefinition) gothic literature.
As to whether Satan or Death could actually kill each other (my money's on Death, considering his job description - but then Satan was already in Hell, so it's not like killing him would change anything)... Milton never lets us find out, having Sin step in at the last minute. At least if I remember everything correctly.
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