Anyone worried what RIAA's latest action will do to AMV's?

ZeWrestler · Post by **ZeWrestler** » Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:49 pm

this gets worse and worse
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... ding_music

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:44 am

Despite what they imply, the RIAA does not own every piece of music ever made. This site tracks CDs that the RIAA does not "own". As they say, their database is not 100%, and even if the RIAA doesn't own it, that doesn't mean that no one does. The info is useful if you're boycotting the RIAA.

Side note: if the RIAA lawyers are blindly downloading files trying to find pirates, then they're almost certainly downloading music that doesn't belong to them. Since they're not a policing agency, that makes them just as guilty as the people they claim are ripping them off. But I'm sure someone has pointed this out to them by now.

ZeWrestler · Post by **ZeWrestler** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:19 pm

Check this out. I found this interesting.

Nightowl · Post by **Nightowl** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:27 pm

"Overpeer" sounds really dirty.

-N

ZeWrestler · Post by **ZeWrestler** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:33 pm

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:26 pm

Alas, a necropost, ZeWrestler. I'm ashamed of you

Slayerwolf · Post by **Slayerwolf** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:05 pm

Well first off, I think that the RIAA has a valid point they are losing money whether people want to admit it or not. But that's on copying whole movies and CD's. Many creators use MP3's myself included. But I also know that if need-be, I can rip tracks from CD's. Which is probably what I will start doing since I've had it with Grokster and all it's Spy-ware. Over 200 files that I had to take off my computer and then the damn thing didn't run. Anyway, the truth is, that we are actually helping the market. That's why we haven't been shut down. The video companies know that we're out there and I'm sure they could put it to a stop if they wanted to. I mean the org is out in the open. But we provide free advertising for them. How many times have you seen a video and then wanted to find the series used in it because you hadn't seen it before. I know that's happened to me lots of times. The same goes for the music. It's a large medium that is targeted at a key demographic. If they try to shut us down, they know they will take a big hit. So they'll stay away from us.

Besides, I think the whole thing is a bluff anyway. There's no way they can prosecute millions of people for copyright violations. It's too much paperwork and the legal costs alone would be more than they're losses.

-Slayerwolf

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:04 pm

Slayerwolf wrote:Anyway, the truth is, that we are actually helping the market. That's why we haven't been shut down. The video companies know that we're out there and I'm sure they could put it to a stop if they wanted to. I mean the org is out in the open. But we provide free advertising for them. How many times have you seen a video and then wanted to find the series used in it because you hadn't seen it before. I know that's happened to me lots of times. The same goes for the music. It's a large medium that is targeted at a key demographic. If they try to shut us down, they know they will take a big hit. So they'll stay away from us.

Besides, I think the whole thing is a bluff anyway. There's no way they can prosecute millions of people for copyright violations. It's too much paperwork and the legal costs alone would be more than they're losses.

-Slayerwolf

NO, the reason they haven't targeted us yet is that we are still small fry compared to all the other places there are that pirate CDs and music.... They other point is they don't have to procecute millions of people. They really only have to do a few hundred, thousand and most will then fall back in line (Scare tactics)....

In the end, they can't stop the making and showing of AMVs, but they can make it real hard by shuttin down distrubution like this place and make it harder for conventions to play the videos in the first place. That alone would already have a huge impact on this hobby....

Vlad

MAS PRODUCTIONS · Post by **MAS PRODUCTIONS** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:14 pm

Slayerwolf wrote:Well first off, I think that the RIAA has a valid point they are losing money whether people want to admit it or not. But that's on copying whole movies and CD's. Many creators use MP3's myself included. But I also know that if need-be, I can rip tracks from CD's. Which is probably what I will start doing since I've had it with Grokster and all it's Spy-ware. Over 200 files that I had to take off my computer and then the damn thing didn't run. Anyway, the truth is, that we are actually helping the market. That's why we haven't been shut down. The video companies know that we're out there and I'm sure they could put it to a stop if they wanted to. I mean the org is out in the open. But we provide free advertising for them. How many times have you seen a video and then wanted to find the series used in it because you hadn't seen it before. I know that's happened to me lots of times. The same goes for the music. It's a large medium that is targeted at a key demographic. If they try to shut us down, they know they will take a big hit. So they'll stay away from us.

Besides, I think the whole thing is a bluff anyway. There's no way they can prosecute millions of people for copyright violations. It's too much paperwork and the legal costs alone would be more than they're losses.

-Slayerwolf

I dont think that the lose of money is attributed to downloaded music. Its just due to a slump in the economy and lack of interest from people who would want to buy cds. Personally there aren't too many cds out there that are worth 20 bux. I think they are just pointing their fingers at Mp3's thinking that it will solve their money problems if they stop people from trading them.

As far as we go, AMVs do seem to help out the anime industry but not so much the music industry. I dont think they will target us for the reason that we dont profit from them. Its just something that we do to entertain people, its a labor of love not a consperacy to bankrupt the music industry.

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:43 pm

I suppose this is progress:

Sept. 3, 2003 NEW YORK (Reuters) - Universal Music Group, the world's largest record company, on Wednesday said it will cut list prices on compact discs by as much as 30 percent in an effort to boost sales that have been stymied by free online music-sharing services such as Kazaa.

Starting in October, Universal, the home to such artists as Mary J. Blige, U2 and Elton John, will trim its prices on most of its CDs to $12.98 from its current $16.98-$18.98 range of prices.

"Our research shows that the sweet spot is to sell our records below $12.98,' said Universal Music president Zach Horowitz. "We're confident that when we implement this we will get a dramatic and sustained increase."

Historically, large retailers have sold new CDs at considerably less than the so-called "manufacturer suggested retail price."

"We expect this will invigorate the music market in North America," said Doug Morris, the label's chief executive. "This will allow retailers (to sell) for $10 or less if they so choose."

The price cut comes as the company has endured the enormous popularity of free music sharing services, which the labels blame for music piracy.

Universal, which is owned by Vivendi Universal, sees the price cuts as part of a larger strategy to discourage people from downloading music from the free services.

The record industry has already begun suing individual users of these services for copyright infringement. The labels have also begun offering their music to online music services that charge for each song downloaded, one of the most popular of which is Apple Computer Inc.'s iTunes.

"As people will begin to migrate from illegitimate services, they're going to be exploring a host of options -- some online and some through retail," Horowitz said. "We felt that the most important thing we can do to encourage people to go back into stores is to reduce our prices dramatically."...
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AnimeMusicVideos.org

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