wisconsin: some hundred million in debt, how about yours?

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 1:26 pm

yeah, here in wi, we're allin debt and now college tutiition is gonna be raised to insane costs, because of teh a**holes in madison messed up somewhere.

so, i'll like to know what's happening in your neck of the woods?

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fyrtenheimer · Post by **fyrtenheimer** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 1:55 pm

they're raising tuition here as well but not for the same reason

but aren't tons of states doing that?

Roke · Post by **Roke** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:08 pm

I have no clue about my state. All I know is that I have a few years until I have to give a damn about College.

OtakuOutpost · Post by **OtakuOutpost** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:12 pm

In the SF Bay Area, the price of a house is on average $500,000.00. In prime locations a one bedroom house with broken plumming is over $1,000,000.

Rent is upwards of $1000/mo for the most meager of accomodations.

Gasoline is on average $0.40 higher than anywhere outside of CA. I'm paying $2.30/ga.

College Tuition for the UC system is easily upwards of $40,000/year.

Utility costs are the highest in the country.

SF Bay area Californians are by nature in debt.

They only come out of it thanks to the rise in property value of owning a home. If they buy a $200,000 home 20 years ago, it's now worth $500,000. Everyone has a mortgage. Most don't come out of the red till they retire and sell their home and move away.

Luckily their retirement is worth quite a bit compared to other states, so when they move away, they quite often live well, but the first 55 years of their life is bill hell.

--Tony

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:18 pm

OtakuOutpost wrote:College Tuition for the UC system is easily upwards of $40,000/year.
--Tony

That one is rather odd. Because I know for me the tuition would be $26k a year since I'm a CA residence, isn't 14k an awfull lot to cut off for CA residents?

OtakuOutpost · Post by **OtakuOutpost** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:22 pm

[quote="The Wired Knight]
That one is rather odd. Because I know for me the tuition would be $26k a year since I'm a CA residence, isn't 14k an awfull lot to cut off for CA residents?[/quote]

Sorry, Typo - I meant $30,000

MistyCaldwell · Post by **MistyCaldwell** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:28 pm

Gov. Taft of Ohio is proposing to raise the taxes on everything. From beer and cigs to sales tax. And the feds are wanting to raise the gas tax.

I realize that more money is needed because programs want more money...but when the economy is getting even more thin, beating people over the head with more fees is just not the way to go. I am sure there are things we can live without for awhile instead of draining more blood from the tax payers.

I have good ideas that just won't work because politicians want to save threir own jobs...not like they'd say 'aye' to a bill that emliminated their job...

I guess I can't blame them, but it would help out the people.

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:33 pm

Wyoming's economy is as far as I know the only one that isn't currently in recesion. Of course, we're tearing everything up for mineral, coal, and coalbed methane extraction...

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:40 pm

It's all good here in Texas. Sure, we have some debt, but the enconomy is still farilly strong and you pay less for most anything you buy here than you would anywhere else in the US.

On good days you can get gas for around $1.58 per gallon.
College is cheap enough (less than 15K per year if your frugal)
Houston is a main hub for imported goods so cars and such tend to be cheaper here, and there is enough land/natural resources for quite a bit of expansion in Texas without overcrowding.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:02 pm

Oregon is in bad shape right now. Of course, the answer was to raise taxes with state measures 26 (and I think 28), which failed at the polls. Everyone blamed the Libertarians for this, and there's grumbling about how they're cold hearted people who are killing the system, but they made some good points about state waste (such as the ginseng advisory council).

Of course, the state won't make cuts in the right areas, and just cuts back on the major things, perhaps to scare voters next time the ballot box comes around.