What is the greatest evil?

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Post by derek_t » Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:56 pm

Control is the greatest evil.

What about greed you say - finanical control.

What about rape - sexual control.

What about dictators who rule with an iron fist - complete personal control.

Everything becomes tied to two things.

1) Power - The ability to do something that at least one other person cannot do.

2) Control - The ability to dictate the ability.

Ignorance is defently not a great evil. I know many people who are ignorant over many things but not an once of evil in them. I know people who are knowledge mastery and are evil. Knowledge can in itself become a form of power and control. Look at anime fans who are pissed that "now anyone can get anime. I'm not special anymore". They have decided that only they and people like them are true anime fans and anyone else just "jumping on the bandwagon" and so forth. They wish to control both who get to see anime and how it is delivered. They became knoweledgable about something and have no wish to share their knowledge. This is wrong. I mean I could never see myself going to an anime writer "I just loved your anime, I made certain no one was able to see it". I'm sorry if I've gone a bit off tangent but I'm trying to show that knowledge in and of itself in not a great savoir.

To be honest I hate ignorance theory in all its forms. To many people believe ignorance is the reason why people do evil things (be it racism, school shootings, etc). It just not true.

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Post by LindenRathan » Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:53 pm

ok now tell us the rest of it dont just stop in the middle
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Post by Tab. » Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:03 pm

You're misinterpreting the context of ignorance through your Western perspective. Re-read my first post. With the East, 'knowledge' of something is still ignorance so long as that knowledge is of the fluid world. In essence, it makes sense. You may understand something today, and if it changes tomorrow, you're all the un-wiser. Things are only true and unchanging in Tat (that which is outside of Maya - Brahman). So, logically, the only true expulsion of ignorance comes from understanding and communion with Tat.
Through this ignorance all the evils of man spring forth. The misinterpretation of one's existence due to failure to understand it breeds selfishness, the illusions of control, difference, and distinction.
Though each branch off into their own brands of evil, it could be considered the root of all branches.
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Post by Lyrs » Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:35 pm

a root that can never be made into a whole unto you square it, and to do so, you must acheive Enlightenment.

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Post by FoolThemAll » Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:47 pm

)v(ajin Koji wrote:you know what? i dont know what ignorance means and i dont care.

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Also, what the fuck does daft mean?

The greatest evil is knowingly causing harm solely for the sake of causing harm. A malignity that is otherwise motiveless. (No action is completely motiveless.) I cannot think of anything more evil.

Harm motivated by greed has the excuse of temptation. It's not a sufficient excuse to negate the evil, but it does 'temper' it.

If one's ignorant that one is causing harm, or ignorant that there exists no external motive for causing harm, it's not as evil. Evil is in the intentions.

The ignorance spoken of is not evil. It may be a bad condition, and failure to attempt the condition may be evil, but the condition itself isn't evil. Only actions can be morally judged.

I think.
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Post by FoolThemAll » Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:49 pm

FoolThemAll wrote:(No action is completely motiveless.)
Change to (No voluntary action is completely motiveless.)
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Post by FoolThemAll » Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:52 pm

FoolThemAll wrote:The ignorance spoken of is not evil. It may be a bad condition, and failure to attempt the condition may be evil, but the condition itself isn't evil. Only actions can be morally judged.
Eeek, one more error. Should read: "and failure to attempt to lessen the condition may be evil."

This complaint has no originality: we need an edit button.
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Post by Lyrs » Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:31 pm

FoolThemAll wrote:This complaint has no originality: we need an edit button.
I disagree. You can't change the past, so you must not be ignorant of the present and the possible future.

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Post by skanks » Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:23 pm

I have a T-shirt that says,
'Drink is the root of all evil
so by me a drink, because I'm a wicked root'

Control is the greatest evil?
Erms, I'm controling my computer..
I control myself when I get pissed so i don't lose it..

But, I guess it 'can' be evil. I'm not too sure that greed can be good, but it's possible.. somehow... :shock:

but, it seems well all know what's evil but all using different terms to explain it...
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Post by Otohiko » Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:42 pm

Ok, let's just make it a lot, lot simpler.


























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