Does anyone else think this is awful? [RIAA suit vs. girl]

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:58 pm

Well yes, the point is they're assholes, and not necessarily in the loosest sense of the word.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:01 pm

Well, all i'm concerned about is just how people were found out. illegal search, anybody?

neway, more reasons for some of folks to buy 'em music.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:05 pm

El Banana wrote:I believe someone talked about there being a tak on cd's and whatnot in Canada, making CD burning/ Downloading music LEGAL.

That's sheer genius.

Is it? I don't see how it's the government's job (or in the best interest of the public) to help the recording industry in Canada or the US stay profitable.

fyrtenheimer · Post by **fyrtenheimer** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:18 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:
theregister wrote:Overall, CD sales did decline at the start of 2003. Compared to the first six months of 2002, retail unit shipments fell 9.8 percent to 245.2 million and revenue dropped 9.1 percent to a paltry $4.25 billion. Don't shed too many tears just yet though.

Over the same period, CD single sales surged by 162.4 percent in units and 173.5 percent in revenue. This raises an interesting question.

Most file traders go after songs one at a time. They pick and choose the tunes they like. Could it be the case that consumers don't see a good value in buying an entire CD for $16.99 when all they want is a couple of songs? The hike in single sales backs up this trend.

The recent success of Apple's iTunes service would also seem to confirm this. Users of iTunes can buy one song at a time for 99 cents. Apple conveniently put out a statement today, saying it has sold 10 million songs since its service started just four months ago.

Oh snap?

What they don't realize is song quality has dropped.

Or ok, songs nowadays suck ass. I'm not gonna bo guy a fucken 20 dollar CD when I only like one song.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:25 pm

Napster could've made a lot of money.

angelx03 · Post by **angelx03** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:33 pm

fyrtenheimer wrote:
AbsoluteDestiny wrote:
theregister wrote:Overall, CD sales did decline at the start of 2003. Compared to the first six months of 2002, retail unit shipments fell 9.8 percent to 245.2 million and revenue dropped 9.1 percent to a paltry $4.25 billion. Don't shed too many tears just yet though.

Over the same period, CD single sales surged by 162.4 percent in units and 173.5 percent in revenue. This raises an interesting question.

Most file traders go after songs one at a time. They pick and choose the tunes they like. Could it be the case that consumers don't see a good value in buying an entire CD for $16.99 when all they want is a couple of songs? The hike in single sales backs up this trend.

The recent success of Apple's iTunes service would also seem to confirm this. Users of iTunes can buy one song at a time for 99 cents. Apple conveniently put out a statement today, saying it has sold 10 million songs since its service started just four months ago.
Oh snap?

What they don't realize is song quality has dropped.

Or ok, songs nowadays suck ass. I'm not gonna bo guy a fucken 20 dollar CD when I only like one song.

Totally agree. Nowadays, today's music is just rehashed version of
OLDIES music. Plus, there's A LOT of rap and R&B music. It's pathetic beyond reason. Also we're losing the originality aspects. I wonder what type of music will be popular in the next few decades?

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:57 pm

kthulhu wrote:
El Banana wrote:I believe someone talked about there being a tak on cd's and whatnot in Canada, making CD burning/ Downloading music LEGAL.

That's sheer genius.
Is it? I don't see how it's the government's job (or in the best interest of the public) to help the recording industry in Canada or the US stay profitable.

It does keep big bad corporations off twelve-year-old Honor students.

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:40 pm

El Banana wrote:
kthulhu wrote:
El Banana wrote:I believe someone talked about there being a tak on cd's and whatnot in Canada, making CD burning/ Downloading music LEGAL.

That's sheer genius.
Is it? I don't see how it's the government's job (or in the best interest of the public) to help the recording industry in Canada or the US stay profitable.
It does keep big bad corporations off twelve-year-old Honor students.

Keep in mind they subpeona the user of the screen name, and have no actuall information on who the person is.

1. RIAA Monster monitors file swapping programs
2. Notes heavy users and their screen names
3. Follows up by gathering readilly available information about user (kind of files shared, # of files, ISP, etc)
4. Uses said information to determine ISP and submits subpeonas for the user identity and files lawsuits in cunjunction with the subpeonas.
5. ISP must legally provid information on user.
6. Information is now available to teh big bad RIAA and sometimes the public, but the lawsuit was already filed days/weeks or even months ago depending on how much the ISP tries to worm it's way out of the requests for the users identity.

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:48 pm

In other words, I wonder who got fired for this PR nightmare.

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:53 pm

I just totally quoted the wrong thing there :/ that sucks.