Damn Bigotted Liberals

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 5:46 pm

It all boils down to Area 51 and the government sponsored reptilian Earth colony in the end, doesn't it?

Alucard_FoN · Post by **Alucard_FoN** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:10 pm

kthulhu wrote:It all boils down to Area 51 and the government sponsored reptilian Earth colony in the end, doesn't it?

*Adjusts his tin foil hat*

Those reptiles mind control waves won't get ME, that's for damn sure!

madmallard · Post by **madmallard** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 7:44 pm

i just find the liberal counter arguement to going into Iraq pathetic.

liberal: We shouldn't have gone in. this was an immoral, internationally illegal war whos sole purporse was to secure oil for fatcat american corporations and to subvert the culture of Iraq.

mod: OKay, but, saddam is a brutal dictator right?

Liberal: yes.

mod: and its good that he's gone, right? I mean the random torture of the populace is going to fade away, and we opened up all the childrens prisons and other things, right?

Liberal: yes its very good that hes gone.

Mod: but you said we shouldn't have gone in. If we had done things your way, all these horrible things would still be going on.

Liberal: oh we wanted to go in too, but not when Bush wanted to.

Mod: but you said that this war was immoral.

Liberal: Yes! Bush's war was immoral, ours would have been very moral and correct.

Mod: so the differences between them would be. . ..

liberal: Another month of inspection searching and another resolution.

. . . . . .uhm yeah whatever

Alucard_FoN · Post by **Alucard_FoN** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:05 pm

The difference is that if it had been me we would not have gone in until we had the UN's approval. THe UN exists to govern the nations that belong to it, and if we aren't going to respect it's laws we may as well not be a part of it.

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:29 pm

UncleMilo wrote:Just some quick comments.

One... I am very tired of the word "liberal" being used as some insulting term. It was liberal minded thinkers who wanted to overthrow the yoke of English tyrany back in the 1700s and help create America as a free and independent nation (despite the protests of conservatives in the congress)

There are fanatical liberals and fanatical conservatives to be sure and those guys scare me... but when I look at the conservative mindset and the liberal mindset of those who are "the norm", I am often disueded by the conservative viewpoint.

If it wasn't for my liberal upbringing, I would have never discovered foriegn films... and through my appretiation of cultures different from my own, I would eventually discover anime... (back then anime wasn't nearly as available as it is today)

Now, I know that's one tiny example, but I'm going to stop there on that subject.

I did want to make one comment to Cyanna...

When people say "Bush is not my president", this is more due to the fact that many (myself included) believe that there was foul play in the counting of votes for the Bush/Gore election and that Bush stole the election.

I agree with your point. If Bush had simply won without any air of controversy, then yes... Bush would be the president because it was the choice of the majority.

I wasn't happy with Reagan or the other Bush, but I never felt that these men were "NOT my president." I do, however, feel that this current Bush fits the line. Ignoring the whole Florida thing, more Americans did vote for Gore than Bush.

Anyway...I'm not here to debate... just offering some thoughts based on what I read.

-Uncle Milo

Its the fucking retarded pieces of shit like you Milo who give the word liberal a bad name. There is nothing new about your ideas they were tried and they failed before. The people who are liberals now are nothing but Crying whiney whores like yourself who are so willing to force your oppinions on other people and never admit that you are wrong. Here are some indisputable facts for you pea sized brain you homosexual faggot buttnazi.

1. You are not right you are in a fact wronger than a whore that sells herself to 5 year old boys for biscuits from the french indians wars.

2.Whites should not feel guilty for improving the world so go cry elsewhere because some stupid savages died while they were in the way of progress You dumbass liberal homo buttfaggot.

3. I hate you. You are nothing to me but a piece of shit why? because you don't have trouble treating people like that

So.....

In conclusion go fuck yourself bush is our president eat my ass if your a homo commie who can't get that fact through your ardvarked sized brain and have a nice day.

Hate hate hate hate

Hitler vs Milo as a freind of democracy hmm

I'll take Hitler

Eat my ass Milo

Mr Oni

I like some liberals just not you

Kamoc · Post by **Kamoc** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:36 pm

jesus christ, get a room.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:55 pm

Alucard_FoN wrote:The difference is that if it had been me we would not have gone in until we had the UN's approval.

Of course, if the UN can't back up its own laws with anything besides rhetoric, then what's the point of seeking its approval? How many "UN-approved" conflicts are going on in the world? How many have gone on? Now how many unapproved conflicts have occured, and still occur? WAY more.

Why should the US have to seek approval from the UN, when the Bosnians, Serbs, and Croatians didn't after Yugloslavia fell apart? Is it because one is "just an ethnic squabble", and the other is imperialism?

The UN lacks authority. Seeking its approval is just a waste of time for any country, and reeks of throwing away sovereignty.

Speaking of which....

Alucard_FoN wrote:THe UN exists to govern the nations that belong to it, and if we aren't going to respect it's laws we may as well not be a part of it.

That's a scary statement. The UN, legally, should not be above any nation, and its declarations should not just be obeyed "because the UN says so".

Maybe we should pull out, even if it means the UN goes the way of the League Of Nations. It was created, like the League Of Nations, after a world war. Like the League Of Nations dealing with Imperial Japan's aggression in Asia (namely, the Japanese delegate just walked out, and Japan continued its imperial conquest), the UN has done little to make the world any better, permanently, long term, or otherwise, than it was after the Second World War.

My prediction: with the continued march towards European unity, economic stability and trade in Asia leading to and maintaining peace, and the continued status quo in South America and Africa, the UN will become irrelevant, or even cease to exist. Maybe we'll be ready for it again when we colonize the moon or Mars...

Alucard_FoN · Post by **Alucard_FoN** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:04 pm

I'm not saying the UN is necessarily good, I'm just saying, that when we joined it we did so with the knowledge that we would be expected to follow it's policies and laws when it comes to international affairs. To renege on that now makes everyone in the country look bad, like we can't be trusted to keep our word. Like it or not, we are a part of the UN, and if we don't like it's laws, tough shit. I don't like some of the laws of my state and my country, but I have to obey them regardless.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:27 pm

Are you this?

or are you that?

Oh you naughty DEMOCRAT!

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I would simply suggest that current problems in American policies go beyond Democrat/Republican divide... Over 40 years ago, speaking at the end of his presidential term, general Eisenhower expressed his concern over "the growing influence of the military-industrial complex".

Now that's what I'm concerned about today (perhaps replaceing the word "industrial" with "corporate"). Democrat or Republican, that doesn't change the nature of the situation much. The only reason I'm more critical of Republicans is their dumb-dumb president and their fundamentallist religious stances.

Kamoc · Post by **Kamoc** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:44 pm

Mroni wrote:i'm not here.

so this isn't happening.