religon yes or no

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:22 pm

The bible was used as parables yes and to record what God wanted done. We were created in his image, but not a photocopy. He's forgiving, but only if you ask. But if you don't mean it, he turns a deaf ear to you. So the moral is, you got o hell for not worshiping him and following his rules, and when Jesus came down to Earth and if he thought something was wrong wit the First part (Old Teastament) then i'm sure he woulda said something, but he quoted it as well as taught further stuff. And his pals wrote the new testament, so i'm pretty sure it's all square. Yeah as it's passed down from denom to denom, there may be WORDING changes instead of "He thou art thee blah de blah" but the ideas stay the same IE: Don't murder, don't worship golden cows, it's ok to drink, but don't get wasted nightly and only nail someone to a cross if they're supposed to die for our sins.

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:26 pm

Quite so Trident, as you said the biggest problem with these kinds of debates is the fact that the people having them have usually made up their minds no matter what is brought before them.

And I'd also like to add 'Did Man Just Happen' to your list. It provides a lot of more scientifc and logically reasoning for those who need it.

J-0080.

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:26 pm

Oh yeah, my close experience with death (The SUV who ran me over, while i was walking mind you, no car to absorb any of the blow) only gave me a few scars on my arm and a crushed leg. No internal injuries, no disfigurement, no death, no disability. I've got a titanium rod in my leg though.

One of the funniest arguments though is "oh yeah? well if your God exists, why doyou feel pain". Well, because if God wanted life to be lollipops and sugery shit then he wouldn't have left Satan to go on and tempt adam and eve. S'all part of the test. We put up with this wordly bullshit like public school, greed, badly done movies based on old tv shows, homosexuality, George Bush opting to give the government more power, and general insanity. But if we stay true to God, follow his word and ask for forgiveness along the way (and only if yous means it) and accept that Jesus is dah lord and savior, then you get that card to go into heaven. So I'll take the SUV crushing my leg to an eternity in hell.

madmag9999 · Post by **madmag9999** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:27 pm

so were is this hell anyway doesnt the bible say its underground well we know thats not true. and if u have to warship god and ask for his forgivness he doesnt seem like a very resenable person at all. and also i dont need the ten comandments to tell me whats right and whats wrong there are laws and morals to do that

Jim Hawkings21122 · Post by **Jim Hawkings21122** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:30 pm

Jesus MAN!

At least attempt proper grammer madmag.

(j/k)

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:31 pm

madmag9999 wrote:so were is this hell anyway doesnt the bible say its underground well we know thats not true. and if u have to warship god and ask for his forgivness he doesnt seem like a very resenable person at all. and also i dont need the ten comandments to tell me whats right and whats wrong there are laws and morals to do that

Hell isn't "underground" but John described it as burning sulfer/fires/blah blah blah in revolations. And God's not a person, he's an entitity and he wants you to ask for forgiveness because he wants you to KNOW you did something wrong and that you're atoning for it. And it's not just The 10 Commandments yo. The Bible covers Homosexuality, witchcraft, hookers, how to deal with beggers, how not to piss off your wife or she'll make your life a hell and it tells womens that their supposed to be loyal to there husbands and it tells the husbands to be loyal and loving to the women and that their breasts are handy during foreplay (maybe not in THOSE words but the words pleasure and breasts are used in the same sentance).

Jim Hawkings21122 · Post by **Jim Hawkings21122** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:41 pm

JUst wondering, i herd from a friend that in some bible it Mis-translated a line so that it read that jews had horns or something........he told me that it's like the most offensive thing that you can say to a jewish person, "where are your horns" specifically.

keep in mind that i'm not trying to offend any jewish people out there.

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:55 pm

Did your friend write this bible himself? Maybe while wasted on some bad pot?

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:43 am

Misty, can I let you cover this?

Jim Hawkings21122 · Post by **Jim Hawkings21122** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:49 am

MinnieMoose wrote:Did your friend write this bible himself? Maybe while wasted on some bad pot?

not tis true story, he is actually a jew.