Do you find it useless?

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 1:26 pm

One of my friends was having a debate with me, and he was trying to convince me that money was evil and useless. We should all be self-sufficent, he says. Then he went off on some tangent about how a caveman would make a club, and a second caveman asked if he could have the club. The clubmaker have the second caveman the club, in exchange for spreading his name around as the premier club maker. I disputed that the second caveman was in no way obligated to do so, and that the first caveman would become known as "The guy handing out free clubs." Then he debated how the second caveman made food, and that the clubmaker would ask the foodmaker for food, since he gave him a club. His entire economy was based on returning favors to people. I shot that down with my previous explaination, and I added that eventually, the clubmaker would realized that the clubs have more value that food. A club is a multipurpose tool; all you do is eat food.

You know what's pointless? This post

edowardo2 · Post by **edowardo2** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 1:37 pm

I am neither whiney, nor a goth, nor looking for or talking about the "American Dream". Rather I am talking about my personal beliefs, and how I feel that life is pointless. Thank you for your concern.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 1:40 pm

Dude "currency" is evil :p As long as there is a value put on something then suffering will occur

~klinky

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:17 pm

Mroni wrote:Electric toothbrushes what the hell were they invented for ???

Mr Oni

To molest trackball-chan with.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 12:13 am

edowardo2 wrote:Life.

Life is quite useless, we are meant to toil over petty jobs and illegitamate, hopeless relationships in the hope of what?! That we die someday and start it all over again without knowing?. Now that is just fucked up. Oh yah and it's useless

Are you willing to stick the gun to your head and pull the trigger so you can end your useless life? No? Then please shut the hell up. Those of us with better things to do and wonder about don't want to hear it.

And what is an illegitimate relationship?

edowardo2 wrote:I am neither whiney, nor a goth, nor looking for or talking about the "American Dream". Rather I am talking about my personal beliefs, and how I feel that life is pointless. Thank you for your concern.

You are whiny. Mr. Bucket's point is that the only reason you have to "toil" and all that other whiny ass bullshit you were spewing is because society expects you to, to reach some ideal that is not guaranteed to happen. No one is forcing you to work something you hate. If you can live without some things, you can always live outside of what everyone else thinks is the ideal life. So shape up, get some meaning in your life, and be happy. Otherwise, get off the merry go round and stop wasting resources.

klinky wrote:Dude "currency" is evil :p As long as there is a value put on something then suffering will occur

~klinky

You can't NOT have value. Everything has a value. Currency is actually a GOOD thing, when all is said and done. It provides a means of scalable, equal economics, as it were (so you don't have to pay a cow for two baskets of strawberries because that's all both parties have), and provides a neutral means of trade. If someone needs eggs but only has bread to trade, and the person offering eggs doesn't want bread, that's a problem. In an economy with official, denominated currency, both people want it, both people will take it, and both get what they want (egg seller gets money, egg buyer gets eggs).

See? Expand on your point further.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 2:04 am

kthulhu wrote:You can't NOT have value. Everything has a value. Currency is actually a GOOD thing, when all is said and done. It provides a means of scalable, equal economics, as it were (so you don't have to pay a cow for two baskets of strawberries because that's all both parties have), and provides a neutral means of trade. If someone needs eggs but only has bread to trade, and the person offering eggs doesn't want bread, that's a problem. In an economy with official, denominated currency, both people want it, both people will take it, and both get what they want (egg seller gets money, egg buyer gets eggs).

See? Expand on your point further.

Exactly

fyrtenheimer · Post by **fyrtenheimer** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 9:47 am

meh,
kthulhu rocks

i cant really think of nething that's useless

but my fav month is here
and so im happy