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Post by kwirl » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:47 pm

Why don't you guys use torrent tracking instead of locally hosting all these files? It's faster and I don't have to go through 23 pages asking for money to find a file.

I don't have a problem with donating, but unless I find videos that I consider worth paying for, I'm not really encouraged to do so. If you had a tracking system for torrents, I could contribute bandwidth to the cause, and determine through usage if I felt like spending money to download shit.

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Post by angelx03 » Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:09 pm

Silly person!

You don't really have to pay in order to download the videos you want. And what makes you think that using BitTorrent will make the downloads faster?
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Post by Corran » Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:17 pm

angelx03 wrote:And what makes you think that using BitTorrent will make the downloads faster?


Yeah, torrents are only really good for large popular files. With 60000+ videos I doubt more than 2 people are often downloading the same file.

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Post by Brsrk » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:37 am

Corran wrote:
angelx03 wrote:And what makes you think that using BitTorrent will make the downloads faster?


Yeah, torrents are only really good for large popular files. With 60000+ videos I doubt more than 2 people are often downloading the same file.
And who the hell would keep a computer up that long with the avaliable resources? I've lagged my laptop pretty bad when I went on a fansub spree one day. I had to wait for over 40 of them to finish before it started acting closer to normal again. I also rarely ever see anything smaller than 100 mb that isn't music or movies get distro'd on BT, granted it may go quick because it's smaller, but it won't work. Bandwidth is also the other thing. Who in their right mind would use all their bandwidth to seed so many torrents or cap their upload and be seeding around 100-ish? Most people only upload around 30-100 kbps on a standard cable or dsl connection. If you get it straight from the .org, it's basically however fast your bandwidth wants to go.
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Post by SpringBoy » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:25 am

BitTorrent would be pretty useless for the reasons listed by the others.

However, I think it might be good for some of the larger ones like the NES Project, AniMix Project, etc. These are all around 700MB so they eat up significant amounts of bandwidth on a single file. Since they're so large it would take some time to download, even on broadband, during which time all the user downloading it could also be uploading.

This could help reduce the bandwidth requirements for the site - even if it is by only a little bit. I bet when new ones are released though that it would be very useful as plenty of people would be trying to download them.

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Post by angelx03 » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:37 am

Ther thing is that you'll be able get a lot of seeders when the massive multi-editor project gets released. In the long run, not many people will bother seeding the projects so the people who wants will get lucked out (hell, we still get posts from people to seed the 4th DDR Project).

The Donut system is good enough as it is since I can always rely on getting constant download speeds unlike BitTorrent.
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Post by dokool » Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:49 am

Isn't it all moot since the Donut now hosts big MEPs like Animix, DDR, NES, etc?

I move that all threats that mention BitTorrent get automatically locked. Leave the poor dead horse alone.

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Post by Kalium » Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:33 pm

dokool wrote:Isn't it all moot since the Donut now hosts big MEPs like Animix, DDR, NES, etc?
Yup. There aren't enough users to get the big MEPs at any reasonable speed over a BT unless it's immediately after release. There are people around who could give you the technical details of why, but I doubt that would interest you. Long story short: BT solves the problem of an extremely high demand:file ratio. Here, we don't have that, we have the opposite problem. We have a lot of files in low relative demand.

Summary: this is what HTTP was invented for. BitTorrent just doesn't fit.

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Post by Zero » Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:43 pm

Curious, how many times has this topic come up before?

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:54 pm

Hardly ever. I think I've seen it come up two, maybe three, times this year.
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