Bad reviewers

Sephzilla · Post by **Sephzilla** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:27 am

Could I suggest that AMV create a way for AMV creators to eliminate one bad opinion per video they've entered?

Im not talking about just reviews that lower your video's ranking.

I'm talking about people who leave bad & low ranking reviews simply when they back up their opinion with little to no info, or basically give a long fluffed speach that means "I want it done this way".

Another thing that really bothers me is the pompus rear-end people who leave reviews criticising everything about someone's AMV and how it should be done... and yet the reviewer has never created a single AMV. There should be some sort of rule saying that in order to leave a review you must have created ___ number of videos.

How can people think they know what they're talking about when they dont know the rules and limitations?

kain2983 · Post by **kain2983** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:33 am

I agree with you on most of what you are saying but the part about people who have never created a video is a little weird. If someone has been watching AMVs for a long time but never created one they would still know what was good and what was bad. Also it is their opinion so it shouldn't matter if they are creators or not. But I do believe that something should be done about people give horrible scores on a video and only say like 8 words (it happned to me once).
But then again would that be like taking away that persons right to having an opinion so really if you want to be right about it we should do nothing to change the way things are.
I mean even if you have created the greatest AMV ever there will be someone out there that doesn't like be that for personal reason or maybe because they just don't like you because something that you may have done to them. ( which I think is horrible that people do that) Or be that they made a video to the same anime and to the same song as you did so they give yours bad scores.
So I guess what I am trying to say is that giving a creator the right to eliminate a opinion sounds good when you hear it but if you really think about it it would be a rude thing to do for the sake of the the person that gave their opinion almost like saying that well since you didn't like my video then your opinion doesn't matter.

Sephzilla · Post by **Sephzilla** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:32 pm

Agreed.

But I would more or less enjoy eliminating the lacklusterous ops that leave the "good" and "bad" fields blank and leave one comment saying "It was ok" even though the ratings show otherwise.

kain2983 · Post by **kain2983** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:45 pm

yes I agree. And I would say that there should be a word limit but people would get around it by just repeating one word over and over again. So that idea won't work either.
Another Idea would be to let people report bad reviews. But then the poeple who run the site would end up having to check upon thousands of opinion. So that idea is out of it.
So although I would like the option to dismiss some of the 'weaker' opinion that I have recieved but I don't see a good way to give people that option so I will live with it.

OzzieAlThor79 · Post by **OzzieAlThor79** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:49 pm

I can understand where people may have issues. It is kinda silly to have:

"Well... it was ok. Not good, not bad."

And that's IT as an opinion. I mean, isn't that why you give a video 3 stars?

Now, I don't think you should be able to delete opinions just because you don't like them for sure. Maybe a 250 character minimum in the general comments area would help with people's issues.

Something along those lines might help get rid of lazy people who aren't helping you at all really.

Poetic_Kaos · Post by **Poetic_Kaos** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:05 pm

Having a word limit is a bad thing. I would rather get a short opinion than none at all. If a word limit is sanctioned, those “lazy” people will simply stop giving opinions. That and a 250 word limit is far beyond the avg.

The ability to delete opinions is in the hands of the admins. I think it should stay there. Otherwise, people will simply delete opinions because it lowers their averages. There is already a certain amount of score inflation to begin with.

kain2983 · Post by **kain2983** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:27 pm

I agree the ability to delete opinions should stay in the hands of the admins. But I do not agree with the word limit like it was said some of the people that leave opinions would just stop doing it because they would have to type 250 words to do so. Or people would just start doing what I said before and just type a couple of words like they use to and then copy and paste them over and over again.
So at least for the moment I believe that the system that will have is what we are going to have to live with.

Sephzilla · Post by **Sephzilla** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:42 pm

A word limit I think is a good idea.

Eliminating the ''lazy'' people I think is a good thing.

Some people devote lots of time, sweat, and effort into creating their AMVs. I find it unjust that someone who's too lazy to make one him/herself or even create a 250 word summary should be able to make big impacts [positive or negative] on AMVs.

Basically I want to be graded by my peers, my fellow AMVers, not lazy spectators.

Sephzilla · Post by **Sephzilla** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:46 pm

**Add on to my previous post**

And here would be my method for deleting ops.

For the AMV creator, he would not be allowed to deleate ops until __ amount of opinions have been given to his video, for now we'll use 10 as a base number.

After those 10 ops are given to the video, an average grade can be given towards a video. An example would be like 85%. Based on that average number, the AMV creator should be given the option to remove opinions that are significantly lower or higher than that base 85% average thus eliminating the ''outliers'' that tend to be very very strict opinjions or very very kind opinions. And keeping the ones that reflect what the video's true calibur is.

This system could eliminate people who simply bring down video's ranks just because they can, and yet wont prevent videos from eventually taking a downward or upward slide in their overall ranking.

twotengoten · Post by **twotengoten** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:41 pm

The idea of removing the bad opinions is a good one, I think. Especially if the opinion is the kinda that just gives low scores without reason. I've recieved some opinions that just have low scores and they only say something like "your quality stunk" or "Action Naruto videos are getting old." I would love to be able to either get rid of these useless opinions that offer no real critisism or suggestions for improvement, or make it so that people had to go back and give more detailed opinions.

I've recieved opinions that are a few pages long...those are the kind I really like.