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Post by Kitsuner » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:28 am

sweetdeily wrote:I'm not one of the old-timers or the 'in-crowd' so I don't expect those of you who 'are' to actually understand what I see when people who act like Godix on this site... act like, well, Godix. -_-;
What do you mean by 'are'?
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Post by sweetdeily » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:39 am

Kitsuner wrote:
sweetdeily wrote:I'm not one of the old-timers or the 'in-crowd' so I don't expect those of you who 'are' to actually understand what I see when people who act like Godix on this site... act like, well, Godix. -_-;
What do you mean by 'are'?
Lmao. When I read that I was like 'are they being semantic?' then I realised you were joking. ^^; Almost had me opening my mouth to insert foot there. Lol. I think that one's going in a quote archive. *chuckle*
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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:26 am

Well, who was the first one to raise a fuss over this? I laugh at the thought that I'm part of some editor inner circle. The only editor friends I have hardly ever post here.

As has been stated before in this very thread, It's not really about godix, it's about how things were handled, how things weren't handled, and how hypocrites that don't know forum etiquette were allowed to barge into this forum and set a perceived precedent of whining until someone got banned, and how some people thought that wasn't okay. I will defend what he did in this case because I do not believe people have the right to be lazy enough to not read that first post and yet still complain at the clearly stated result. Prior transgressions that were objectionable are also not fair to mention because they were incorrectly handled to begin with. You don't "make up for it" by over-reacting later on. What's done is done.
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Post by sweetdeily » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:17 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Well, who was the first one to raise a fuss over this? I laugh at the thought that I'm part of some editor inner circle. The only editor friends I have hardly ever post here.
Hmm, as far as I'm concerned the banners and this very discussion thread speak for themselves about who is making a fuss.
It's not so much who the first person was to make a fuss, most of the posters in this forum /are/ making a fuss- /I'm/ making a fuss.
The thing is: "do you honestly think /now/, /this/ issue, is what you should be semanticating over?"
BasharOfTheAges wrote:As has been stated before in this very thread, It's not really about godix, it's about how things were handled, how things weren't handled, and how hypocrites that don't know forum etiquette were allowed to barge into this forum and set a perceived precedent of whining until someone got banned, and how some people thought that wasn't okay.
I repeat
swetdeily wrote:I think Godix wasn't the only person that should have been slapped on the wrist for certain comments.
I completely support dokidoki's decision to ban godix because he was technqicually (sp) caught out regardless of the history of BP.
I find it interesting how you see someone being attacked on a personal level as a hypocritical whinner.
I will defend what he did in this case because I do not believe people have the right to be lazy enough to not read that first post and yet still complain at the clearly stated result.
Yes, that's perfectly true.
I will also defend Godix's right to do that.
But BP was right as well (and as much as it pains me to say it) I will defend BP on the grounds that the forum rules were breached unfairly and BP deserved to have its hissy fit in this one particular instance. Just because BP is a hypocrite and I find it mostly deplorable in almost all of what it does and says (I don't condone yelling and screaming at people trying to help you) doesn't mean they weren't right to turn around and stand up to Godix.
And there I go, repeating myself again... sorry. ^^;
I think the only reason the comment thread wasn't locked from the get-go was that the mods didn't initially realize what Godix set himself up for. Any one of the people who didn't read the post fully could have turned around and done the exact same thing, and they would still have been right.
Prior transgressions that were objectionable are also not fair to mention because they were incorrectly handled to begin with. You don't "make up for it" by over-reacting later on. What's done is done.
Yes, I agree, Godix and others should have been punished a long time ago as well. Good point. ^^
I don't think this was an overreaction at all. He abused another member on a personal level (whether he realized or not). As far as I know, the mods might have given him warnings in the past about such actions (and frankly wouldn't surprise me if they had,) and this was his third time strike out.

Godix's comments were not 'that' inflamatory, but they were still inflamatory, and that, Bash-san is the point.

From my noobie point of view: I would have been really upset that someone could go around saying whatever they wanted to others and get away with it because the mods thought 'oh well, he's been doing it so long we can't punish him now, there'd be no point'.
I think it is perfectly fair to talk about past transgressions, but you're entittled to your opinion in thinking it's unfair of me; I won't stop you from having an opinion.

I think one of the reasons Godix himself hasn't replied/emailed about this (as I'm sure people would be quoting him if he had) is because he knows he was caught out on this one.

In terms of feedback for the mods, power to you guys! I just wish you caught more people when you did it.
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Post by Otohiko » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:20 pm

sweetdeily wrote: I think one of the reasons Godix himself hasn't replied/emailed about this (as I'm sure people would be quoting him if he had) is because he knows he was caught out on this one.
Uhhh, he has. Check the previous posts. I believe he's been quoted twice to some length. :?
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Post by sweetdeily » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:39 pm

Otohiko wrote:
sweetdeily wrote: I think one of the reasons Godix himself hasn't replied/emailed about this (as I'm sure people would be quoting him if he had) is because he knows he was caught out on this one.
Uhhh, he has. Check the previous posts. I believe he's been quoted twice to some length. :?
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I agree with most all of what Godix said (which disturbs me on so many levels......)- the mods really should crack down more, perhaps making a few mods carry around plane tickets and batons would help, but mostly if they see something that will most likely escalate, they should post warnings or something. *shrugs* its their ball on that one.
Unless someone wants to further debate semantics with me, that was all the two cents I would have died without adding. *yeah, she's opinionated....*
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Post by JaddziaDax » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:16 pm

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Post by downwithpants » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:00 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:I will defend what he did in this case because I do not believe people have the right to be lazy enough to not read that first post and yet still complain at the clearly stated result.
interestingly enough, i've seen it go both ways.
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Post by Autraya » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:21 am

JaddziaDax wrote: @_@
lol every time I see these I think of boobs.
on reflection BP does link to a ch3lsl!n@ thread but says she's her best friend.
*slaps hand over mouth*

downwithpants what (if any) further action are you guys planning on taking? or am I not allowed to ask that?
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Post by JudgeHolden » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:24 am

Godix has returned. The riot can now stop. :wink:

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