THIS THREAD IS FOR CALM DISCUSSION OF RECENT TRANSGRESSIONS

Autraya · Post by **Autraya** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:54 pm

wurpess wrote: I don't know. Even if it was a different person in the past, that doesn't excuse recent actions and rudeness. And besides, if you look at their org profile, it talks about recent events as well as the past events we were upset about using the same kind of words. And it links to recent posts as well as the past ones that were in their sig at one point. So I still think it was the same person in all instances. Whether or not they're also Chelsealina (sp?) is a different story.

True, sorry you must have written this while I was typing

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*devils advocate*
perhaps they haven't updated thier profile?

The funny thing is that some people think that Sweetdeily and I are the same person... we are not and I find that insulting. She's my sister (that I disowned at birth) so it's kinda like saying silver moon and dark moon are the same person if you catch my drift (except they probably wouldn't be offended). Quite often she logs on when visiting my house (I've got broadband and she doesn't) so IP addresses wont help I'm affraid. There are however quite a few members who can testify that we are different people (and after manifest there will be several more hehe)

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:56 pm

Aw come on, that whole debate should have been settled by now (I mean the whole godix vs. Black Pearl + Ch3gU3vAr4.

I think the fact that one can read (and abuse) forum rules but not read the far more plainly written godix fineprint automatically negates any excuses on that front. Hiding behind English skills is one thing, but this was not a case of that. If it was, it's just fake; anyone can do that. It's not a question of tolerance; I've seen plenty of forum members with limited English skills who are not only tolerated but in fact well-respected. If it's intolerance, then it's intolerance for bad behaviour and frankly I don't see why that should be anything but encouraged (it's a function of a community to chase out those who don't behave by its accepted etiquette - or slap them around enough to learn said etiquette; assuming it doesn't devolve into personal attacks, I actually support the 'running of the noobs' if they behave badly).

wurpess · Post by **wurpess** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:17 pm

Autraya wrote: True, sorry you must have written this while I was typing .
*devils advocate*
perhaps they haven't updated thier profile?

Um. . . it talks about the godix ban as well as linking to the threads with the posts we were upset about. I'm pretty sure they've updated recently. (like within the past week.) Take a look for yourself. I agree, I don't think people should have made fun of her for her enlgsih, but at the same time, she shouldn't have yelled at or cursed people out for trying to help her and get the necessary info to properly help her. (because she would have yelled if they didn't give her the right answer to her question). At any rate, godix should be back in a couple days. WEHOO!!!!

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:28 pm

As a community i'd say we're fairly considerate of those that speek another language, but you loose the right to use the non-native speaker defense when you write in 13375p33k and use net-shorthand.

kikai_saigono · Post by **kikai_saigono** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:02 pm

I agree.

SilversLightning · Post by **SilversLightning** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:30 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:As a community i'd say we're fairly considerate of those that speek another language, but you loose the right to use the non-native speaker defense when you write in 13375p33k and use net-shorthand.

I never can understand net shorthand. I perfer plain old english anyday @_@

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:18 pm

Hwæt! wē Gār-Dena in geār-dagum,
þeod-cyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð
feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad
weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,
oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra
ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan. Þæt wæs god cyning!

good ol' english, best when drunk. Same applies for reading Grendel.

Autraya · Post by **Autraya** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:19 am

tollerant?
Yes you are right in most cases the community is, very in fact.
but I have to ask, do you think that shenlongthetigers problem was that he was stupid?
op thread
or perhaps his english skills were a barrier that dropped him in the hot pot? There are 2 examples in the one thread of this problem occuring and my point is that should have been considered.
I didn't see any appologies after people realised he was French?
I didn't see anyone try and fix the problem or explain.
He just got ignored.
What do you think the correct course of action is?
How many flame fests have started because of this factor?
just some mussings I suppose and I guess that some of us take english for granted some times, it's easy to forget. I'm as guilty as the next person.

BasharOfTheAges- yes l33t is worse when english is bad to begin with, 100% with you on that

wurpess - hehehe it does cast a shadow of doubt on the whole thing... I'm gonna fence sit with Dax now

btw I'm not defending her actions what so ever, I just think that there are 2 sides to this story and pissed off people usually can only see their own.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:32 am

You know, I look through that thread now and I feel only one thing: deep, deep regret that godix's opinion priveleges were removed. If he could have mine (which I stopped using ways ago), I'd so totally trade.

sweetdeily · Post by **sweetdeily** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:15 am

I started crying from laughter when I read this thread.
Fact: Godix did bad.
Fact: Godix got slapped on the wrist.

So... yeah... now there's this massive circular 'discussion' about how awful this is to poor-wittle Godix and how if he was going to be punished it should have been for past wrongs, not recent wrongs.

This is what I call 'karma'.
Keep dancing the line, and eventually you slip one too many times for the admin to ignore.
This time, someone stood up for themselves. Sure I don't have much love for BP, but I don't think it matters WHO stood up for themself against the almighty Godix- the fact that someone finally DID is what gets to most of his fans.
Having read the tiff this was over, I think Godix wasn't the only person that should have been slapped on the wrist for certain comments.
Godix's particular brand of humor hurts people. Regardless of whether the joke is funny or not, from what I've seen, it's at someone else's expense.

I'm not one of the old-timers or the 'in-crowd' so I don't expect those of you who 'are' to actually understand what I see when people who act like Godix on this site... act like, well, Godix. -_-;