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Post by J-0080 » Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:40 pm

Karma systems are for Ultima Online, not the Org.
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Post by mckeed » Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:47 pm

Why? There are social dynamics on both communities that need some work. In theory Karma shouldn't matter to anyone who doesn't go off the handle at other members.
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Post by J-0080 » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:07 pm

Yeah, but here you can't kill monsters/people to affect it. So the system can't give everyone a compleatly fair experience.
paizuri wrote:There's also no need for introductions because we're generally a friendly bunch and will welcome you with wide open arms anyway.

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:23 pm

mckeed wrote:well....i see this as only a negative karma system.
Wow, that's a horrible idea. That will just involve people acting all nice and shit, some people would resort to passive aggressiveness and other subtle ways to be assholes so they could easily defend themselves.

I say, if we have a karma system, it should only be positive. People should only be rewarded for doing good things, let the assholes sit in the asshole corner.
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Post by mckeed » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:23 pm

I don't quite understand. You can affect your own karma score by not being stupid. How is it not fair.....you break social ediquite....you get a minor warming......a little more post delay.....you never act stupid...it never affects you. You affect your own karma by not being stupid and it will return to normal where everyone elses is.
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Post by mckeed » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:26 pm

flint_the_dwarf wrote:
mckeed wrote:well....i see this as only a negative karma system.
Wow, that's a horrible idea. That will just involve people acting all nice and shit, some people would resort to passive aggressiveness and other subtle ways to be assholes so they could easily defend themselves.

I say, if we have a karma system, it should only be positive. People should only be rewarded for doing good things, let the assholes sit in the asshole corner.
Its better than people just openly swearing at people and flaming people for really retarded stuff.
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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:31 pm

How often have you seen that lately?
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Post by mckeed » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:48 pm

well....i saw it three times in one day. I'm sure it happens a few times a week. It shouldn't happen at all is my point. I guess if I had piles time i could search for examples, but the fact is it does happen. Your sig isa great example of what this forum has degraded to. "a-m-v.org....where no one cares"
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Post by Zarxrax » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:50 pm

I don't really see why we need this...
How about this instead. The mods are nice people and I don't think they do a whole lot of enforcing the rules unless its really bad. So how about we get a "forum enforcer". This will be a large man named Bubba, and if you do something stupid on the forums, he will personally come over to your house and ass-rape you. I think this would fix things very fast.

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Post by godix » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:54 pm

We already have a karma system on here, it's called an opinion. I've already made up my mind about various frequent posters and dumping karma, good or bad, on them isn't going to make me suddenly think an asshole is an angel or vice versa. If all the readers here agree someone is an asshole/great guy then there's no reason to go to the bother of labeling him as such, we already know that, the label isn't informative in the slightest. If all the readers don't agree that he's an asshole/great guy then that means the ops are defining people long before people have a chance to define themselves. Sites with karma almost invariably end up as a slashdot like karma whoring contest anyway and god knows the last thing the internet needs is another slashdot karma whore. Stick with the current system, the ops take care of any dick that goes too far across the line and that's all that's needed.
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