THIS THREAD IS FOR CALM DISCUSSION OF RECENT TRANSGRESSIONS

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:09 pm

I'll restate another thing I argued privately though:

For all the demonizing of godix that took place in the last while, I don't think banning a member who has made 60 posts in the last week (virtually all of which were useful, a few were VERY useful, and only 2 were questionably disposed - in the same period as I made 3 similarly-questionable posts) and is coordinating an MEP through the .org PMs should be taken lightly. Add to that the fact that I think the ban offended more people than it appeased. This is where my argument in favour of pragmatism comes in; a ban may have been the correct thing to do but not neccesarily a good thing.

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:56 pm

is the answer to "how do i delete my account?" really "stop logging in" ???

Currently, yes if only for the fact that since the org and phpbb are heavily modified that it would be quite an undertaking to code. Then of course is the problem of determining what should happen to the ops, posts, PM, QC, videos, etc.

Regarding Godix, the current situation was not the best time for a ban, though, as he states himself in his journal, he had it coming for quite some time. Please don't interpret that a lack of action on Black pearl is the result of "mods don't care" or the "mods don't communicate". While the ban on Godix was abrupt, we are currently discussing what should happen next.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:59 pm

thank you.
i shall bookmark this for future reference, but i also have an aim convo with kalium stating the same thing... (in otherwords, thanks for the answer, but i already got one, though its nice to see more than one mod answer it

and its appreciated)
i think an FAQ section should be in order... but no stress for now...

Cornwiggle · Post by **Cornwiggle** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:38 pm

He is only banned for one week. It's not really that long, kind of like a slap on the wrists for doing something wrong. If he was permanently banned, I could see how this kind of discussion would be taking place, but one week is nothing. I'm surprised he didn't get banned way before this.

And yeah, I tend to have this bad habit of when people annoy me, I let them know, but I've been trying to not do that anymore, but yeah I deserved a ban for that.

Cornwiggle · Post by **Cornwiggle** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:08 pm

*hit reply by accident* >_>

And yes it's a sad fact about the world but the easily offended people do rule it. Think about it ever aspect, we cater to their problems just because they have a problem when no one else does, it's like that here. Godix's thread was there to find people who wouldn't read and would fall for it, and while he even stated what he would do, he had to expect that someone would have a problem and think of it as a flame or just be offended. It just takes one easily offended person for stuff to change.

I've found it out a lot of ways, you can only mess with people for so long until you find one has a problem and "tells" on you.

So yeah, it sucks that Godix's OP and QCs were disabled, but it's the price the pay to have a little fun.

SilversLightning · Post by **SilversLightning** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:18 pm

Cornwiggle wrote:
So yeah, it sucks that Godix's OP and QCs were disabled, but it's the price the pay to have a little fun.

That's why a lot of people are saying that this is unwarented. But all of this drama needs to stop, why the admin took immediate action. Since we've been having rashs of dummy accounts insulting various members of the org, the admin are just growing a little sick and tired of it, and personally a lot of other people are too. But people are people so there isn't too much you can do about it. When you ban one person it seems like another 4 arises to replace them.

But godix's thing was more of a joke that most everyone except a couple of people were playing along with, and the blantant disregard for other members that these people were exhibiting was unwarented and unneeded. So the question becomes, what to do about it?

Hey, I want one of those godix banners btw. Support our godix *^_^*

kikai_saigono · Post by **kikai_saigono** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:19 pm

I'm still surprised a new member (or any member for that matter) has been able to get two members banned on a whim. First time, yes, Cornwiggle shouldn't have sent that pm, second time however, she should have read the first post.

Furthermore, this member had once posted a thread help question (I think Camillia posted the link) and I was first to reply with the answer. However, she ignored my answer and had to wait for 2 or so other people to answer it before she said thanks to them and was on her merry way. I don't think we should be catering to people like that. I don't think anyone was playing favorites, because our mods and admins are pretty fair when it comes to these kinds of things. But I still think that some members need to remember that the don't own a-m-v.org just by playing innocent and then crying about how others have 'done them wrong'.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:39 pm

kikai_saigono wrote:I'm still surprised a new member (or any member for that matter) has been able to get two members banned on a whim. First time, yes, Cornwiggle shouldn't have sent that pm, second time however, she should have read the first post.

you also gotta remember that although it appeared that way such is not the case...

both of them had transgressions building against them... i think its coincidence that it happened to be "the same entity" that "got both banned".

Cornwiggle · Post by **Cornwiggle** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:48 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:
kikai_saigono wrote:I'm still surprised a new member (or any member for that matter) has been able to get two members banned on a whim. First time, yes, Cornwiggle shouldn't have sent that pm, second time however, she should have read the first post.
you also gotta remember that although it appeared that way such is not the case...

both of them had transgressions building against them... i think its coincidence that it happened to be "the same entity" that "got both banned".

I'm still having trouble believing Black_Pearl and Cheafasr4389!@ are the same person...

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:59 pm

note the quotation marks (")
im not sure myself O.o