Music genre in AMV info

yumi+chan · Post by **yumi+chan** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:30 am

)v(ajin Koji wrote:Maybe if there were something like 5 or so main genres (rock, pop, rap, country, classical just as examples I know there are more.) and then another little place to write the genre within the genre :¬ \

I think that's a great idea

That would be very helpful!

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:55 pm

)v(ajin Koji wrote:I would like the idea, seeing as I am often in the mood for a certain type of music or would like to see similar songs in a different video.

Maybe if there were something like 5 or so main genres (rock, pop, rap, country, classical just as examples I know there are more.) and then another little place to write the genre within the genre :¬ \

But then who's to say that people wouldn't invent a billion different subdramas, the problem still exists...

The only way that this could ever work is if you cleaned up the music database in conjunction with something like FreeDB, and then used FreeDB's statistics to assign genres, which is very possible. If I rip an MP3 through software that uses CDDB or FreeDB, then the ID3 tag has the artist, song name, album name, and genre. If there was some way to rig that through the 'Org...

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:56 pm

dokool wrote:But then who's to say that people wouldn't invent a billion different <s>subdramas</s> subgenres, the problem still exists...

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:04 pm

I'm slightly apologetic, dokool, but....

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:28 am

So what if people create random subgenres or mis-label the songs? This would still be good for searching for stuff you like. It doesn't have to be 100% accurate for the search to provide useful results.

Most people would probably enter their video as a major genre anyways such as pop, rock, or country instead of a subgenre. The people that do know what kind of music they used could properly fit it into a sub-genre. Therefore when people search for that sub-genre chances are the results will be fairly accurate.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:46 am

I don't see a problem with having a number of key genres, so long as you can combine them like you can with video categories.

Even with the most basic category structure, you could just mix-and-match - things like Rock+Techno+Ambient+Avant-Garde/Other would probably describe even the weirdest stuff I could upload here fairly well, and I strongly doubt there's many editors with more indescribeable tastes in music than me .

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:33 am

Kalium wrote:I'm slightly apologetic, dokool, but....

Dude, that's a waste of a .sig, find something funnier to quote =P

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:42 pm

Most people would probably enter their video as a major genre anyways such as pop, rock, or country instead of a subgenre. The people that do know what kind of music they used could properly fit it into a sub-genre. Therefore when people search for that sub-genre chances are the results will be fairly accurate.

All i could see coming out of this is a hundred threads such as:

(Anger) "WTF!?!? Don't you people respect insert random subgenre or group here."

(Cluelessness) "What kind of music would band x be?"

and (Envy) "Why does Genre A have more subgenres than Genre B?"

What it all boils down to isn't a problem with acurateness (the spelling of group names in the top ten artist chart under music and the multitude of spicific OVA movies associated with diferent series under anime type prove that much). I think we just don't want another "why can't i edit my posts" sized argument spanning several threads at once. In the end, this option wouldn't help much, it wouldn't apply to the thousands of old videos, and it is already covered to a degree in the video type adjectives.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:11 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:All i could see coming out of this is a hundred threads such as:

(Anger) "WTF!?!? Don't you people respect insert random subgenre or group here."

(Cluelessness) "What kind of music would band x be?"

and (Envy) "Why does Genre A have more subgenres than Genre B?"

This is a very good point.

The only way that this could be implimented, upon further thought, is on the administration side of things. Basically, the mods would have to assign each artist a genre, but before then they'd have to complete the arduous task of cleaning up the music database (something they've been loathe to do for quite some time, now, especially considering that the music database is an even bigger mess than the anime database was).

So, come up with a way to fix the database before you start asking for things to be added.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:25 am

how bout the decade the song was recorded/composed and group everything pre-1950?

for covers, i'd prefer enforcing use of the decade of the remake.

for performances of classical pieces as written (i.e. no variation on the work), i'd prefer the decade of the composition than recording.