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Post by Jnzk » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:51 am

Non-Linear Editor. Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas etc.

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Post by Bluffmaster » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:11 pm

ok and how does that help me

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Post by Kariudo » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:26 pm

it helps you because it is [generally] easier editing with a NLE than a Linear Editor

also, NLE's tend not to be able to handle divx or xvid encoded footage (which is the root of your first post)

6GB is a number that I got from my current project (it's almost done...I swear) that I've taken 342 clips for (encoded with huffyuv)...chances are that the clips you make won't ammount to 6GB (lagarith makes smaller files than huffyuv)...

but if you can't spare that space you could use bait and switch (outlined in EADFAG)
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... meth3.html
but I don't know if it works for vegas

the other solution is to get more space (a larger HD or an external HD)
external HD's are getting pretty cheap (even cheaper if you get a HD and put it in an external enclosure)

sooner or later you're going to have to free up some space so that you can export your video (since final encoding in virtualdub(/mod) is reccomended)
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Post by Bluffmaster » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:40 pm

when i finsh my amv i dont think it will be really big and i dont have anything to free up like i basically dont have anything i could get rid of

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Post by Bluffmaster » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:42 pm

and right now i cant afford a external hardrive becasue when i go to college i am going to get a new computer or laptop and going to have a bigger hardrive and i am a junior now so 2 years so i am not going to spent money now when i am going to get a nigger hardrive in 2 years

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Post by Kariudo » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:53 pm

if you don't want the quality to be bad when you export, you'll pretty much have to export uncompressed, or with Huffyuv or lagarith.

you could take a chance and try to encode using vegas, but I wouldn't be too suprised if it doesn't turn out great.

4 minutes uncompressed video: ~6.5GB
4minutes compressed with huffy: ~1GB
lagarith: ~850MB

one way to free up space is to delete the .vob files when you're done with them (1 episode takes about 1GB)
there are probably a few programs that you have installed that you don't use [often or at all]
or files from years (and classes) long past
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Post by Bluffmaster » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:07 pm

i have a 700mb vidoe file how much mb wil lit be if i use one of them

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Post by Kariudo » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:23 pm

it depends on the length of your video (after you finish editing it)
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Post by Bluffmaster » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:37 pm

i mean like if make it into a huffy or a lagarith or uncompreesit how much will 700mb be

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Post by Kariudo » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:06 pm

it sounds like that file is already compressed with huffyuv or lagarith.
Uncompressed it would probably be around 4-5GB

if this is your exported video, you can go ahead and compress it in virtualDub(/Mod) using divx, xvid or something else (but xvid is probably the best option)

you should then be able to get the filesize down to ~40MB while still having it look good (given that your video satisfies all the conditions laid out in the section of EADFAG that I linked you to above)

if it's an entire episode, a huffyuv file will probably be around 8GB. (uncompressed would be around 15GB)
you really don't want to encode an entire series with Huffyuv or lagarith, which is why it's important to take small clips in virtualdub(/mod) and encode those with huffyuv or lagarith
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