h.264 (or x264) - Should I start encoding in this format?

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:59 am

Scintilla wrote:
bum wrote:Divx compatible Xvid > all. Seriosly, how els am I supose to watch amv's on my dvd player?
MPEG-1/2?

And do all this?

Qyot27 · Post by **Qyot27** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:40 am

I've been planning on making a guide for encoding with MeGUI-x264 so that the resultant videos can play on practically any [Windows] setup from the last 4 or 5 years, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Especially since I'm sure there are things I could do to make the encodes better, but it does work the way it stands right now.

I did manage to create a MeGUI custom profile to contain the settings, but since it got upgraded to .NET 2.0, not all of them set correctly, so I need to redo it.

My reasoning for doing this in the first place is because my computer is terrible at playing most AVC encodes that are coming out nowadays from fansub groups or whatnot, and it seems that only Quicktime-encoded AVC works on mine at higher bitrates (like p0d's The Last Chapter, for instance, worked fine on my computer, but Z3r01's video(s) lag and sputter like hell). This is because of the use of the more advanced features that Quicktime doesn't use, but there are ways of using those features and still getting them to work fine on a computer as weak as mine is (by today's standards), because I've done it before. And the great part about it is that the quality is much better than XviD at that bitrate without nearly as much filtering, either.

Inuyasha the 3rd · Post by **Inuyasha the 3rd** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:32 am

Qyot27,

Sounds intresting, I cannot wait for you to write it. I have been playing around with this thing tho. Just experimenting with this thing.

I forgot to mention that I do have an encoder for this, and its that thing you are talking about.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:46 pm

Inuyasha the 3rd wrote:Qyot27,

Sounds intresting, I cannot wait for you to write it. I have been playing around with this thing tho. Just experimenting with this thing. :P

I forgot to mention that I do have an encoder for this, and its that thing you are talking about.

Also see: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/me ... -x264.html

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:49 pm

trythil wrote:
Inuyasha the 3rd wrote:Qyot27,

Sounds intresting, I cannot wait for you to write it. I have been playing around with this thing tho. Just experimenting with this thing. :P

I forgot to mention that I do have an encoder for this, and its that thing you are talking about.
Also see: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/me ... -x264.html

This is useful pre-reading material. Actually, it's basically required. Look for x264encopts.

Inuyasha the 3rd · Post by **Inuyasha the 3rd** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:02 pm

Thanks, Trythil

Thanks for the documents, I'm checking these out as I type.

Now, when I finish my Fruits Basket Video that I'm doing now. Im going to encode in this format (maybe). But when I put it up, what do I tell in the video info to install on their PC's? Obiously, VideoLAN. (duh

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trythil · Post by **trythil** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:54 pm

Inuyasha the 3rd wrote:what do I tell in the video info to install on their PC's? Obiously, VideoLAN. (duh :P)

http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index. ... =Main_Page

If they're not on a Windows machine, it can be assumed that they know what they're doing.

Kira_Douji · Post by **Kira_Douji** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:19 pm

If you're interested, I say give it a try at least. You sound a bit more knowledgable than I was, so you'll likely have an easier time of it. I tried it for my last video and (after two days of

) I managed to pull off a rather nice encode. So if someone like me, who learned everything they know about encoding from EADFAG and one wikipedia article, can figure it out, I'm sure you can. While I'm a fast learner, I also only have a rudimentary understanding of these things. As far as I know, if you can actually understand what it is you're doing in XviD, you can figure this out.

Cheers,
Kira

Hauntedcow · Post by **Hauntedcow** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:26 pm

If its for a music video, it doesn't really matter.

The H.264 codec was mainly made to deliver higher quality streaming videos and maintain the low filesize. Unless you just want to make it easier on the download time it shouldn't matter. I video blog, and the H.264 is amazing for the streaming video.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:28 pm

Hauntedcow wrote:The H.264 codec was mainly made to deliver higher quality streaming videos and maintain the low filesize. Unless you just want to make it easier on the download time it shouldn't matter. I video blog, and the H.264 is amazing for the streaming video.

Empirical evidence suggests that H.264 compresses better than XviD non-streaming as well.