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Post by Osakaisthebomb » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:57 am

Well as I tried that it did something different happens. Before i start the space required is now 982.50 mb (which is bigger than it normaly showed) and says i have 56.55 gb worth of space left. Unless i'm mistaken that should be enough, but now i get the error message saying it couldn't save it in it's location due to either missing movie,location unavailable, or not enought space.

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Post by downwithpants » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:29 pm

if you moved any of your source files after placing their corresponding clips in wmm on to the timeline, then chances are that wmm is referring the timeline clip to the wrong file directory. look at your timeline and if there are any clips with a red x on them, that means it is referring to the wrong file directory. to fix that, right click the clip and click browse for missing file... and select the source file from where ever you moved it.
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Post by Osakaisthebomb » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:26 pm

Good advice but is not the problem.

Some friends of mine mentioned that they think the dvd that i took the footage from had some protection code in it. I sad the video played all the way through fine on my computer but they said it would do that; it just dosen't work when making a video with it.

Does this seem correct and If so, is there anything I can do?

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Post by downwithpants » Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:31 pm

what steps did you take to rip the dvd and import it to windows movie maker?

if you used a dvd ripping program such as smart ripper or dvd decrypter, it should have descrambled the protection put on the dvd.
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Post by Osakaisthebomb » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:37 pm

I used this device called ADS Tech DVD EXPRESS. It records from the composite video outputs.

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Post by Arigatomina » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:59 pm

If your movie is stopping at 57% that means there's a bad clip at that point in the timeline. Even if you didn't move any of your clips, wmm may have misread a clip when you added it to the timeline. Ex: I have a solid black 'clip' I keep on hand for videos - once when I added it to a timeline wmm read it as being longer than it was and concluded that I'd changed the clip, causing it to stall when producing the video. Once I found the clip, I simply re-added it to the timeline and it was fine.

Look at the clips in your timeline - the ones that fall just past the halfway mark (57%). Copy a 20 second section and paste it into a new project timeline (just the footage, leave your titles for now). Try producing that. Keep doing this till you find a small section that won't produce - that cuts off at a certain percentage. Then cut some of the clips in that section till you find the one that is causing the problems. Once you identify it, you can replace it in the original timeline and the project won't pause on that spot anymore.

When you don't have enough memory to produce a video, it doesn't give you a percentage - it doesn't even try to produce the video. You'll know if you don't have enough space because it will stay at 0% for a few minutes, then give you an error. If it actually tries and then stops on a set percentage, it means there is a clip at that spot in the video that isn't being read properly. Chances are good it's just that one clip, too, so finding it is worth a little copy and paste trial-work.

As for write protection on the dvd causing the problems - are you editing with an avisynth script? If you actually saved the dvd as a video file (probably avi), then the write protection is no longer a factor. Once you copy files/footage from the dvd, you're working with that copy and not the physical dvd. The protection on dvds only stops people from accessing the dvd itself. If you managed to get 50+% of the vid to produce, you know it's not the dvd - because you already accessed half the footage off that dvd.

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Post by Osakaisthebomb » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:00 pm

When begining to try and see if the post above would work, WMM went into a freezing up frenzy. I had to save after every single actions just to be sure I didn't have to do everything all over again.

Well after hours of trying I found one every that could be causing the trouble: either a video or a blank video. The blank video is made by impoorting a black image. The video had a wierd error which was never there before so i took it out and added another. But after all that It messed up in the exact same way; 57% done. I guess that means the blank video is messed up. But if that is so, why is it only messed up in that one place? if I try to make a video with just the stuff before or after the blank, it works. What should I do about that one spot?

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Post by downwithpants » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:17 pm

Osakaisthebomb wrote:if I try to make a video with just the stuff before or after the blank, it works.
then so long as you can make videos of all the scenes in your video, you can piece them back together in avisynth. i don't understand what else you just said - be as specific as you can in your descriptions of the error, i.e. don't use ambiguous pronouns and adverbs.
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Post by Arigatomina » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:02 pm

Blank video - do you mean a clip of nothing but black space?

If so, see if there is a black scene in your anime footage - just one frame, even. You can use that instead of the 'blank video' clip. Or, you can use a picture file and the 'slow down by half' effect to make it as long as you need it. Or, if you really want to use that particular 'blank' clip, try opening it in virtualdub. I don't know how you made the clip, or what codec it was saved in, but it sounds like it's from a different source than the rest of your footage. The encode could be something wmm just can't handle - you can convert it to huffyuv with virtualdub.

The main thing is to replace that faulty clip - if you can't convert it so it works, find another clip that you can use instead.

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If you're having trouble copying and pasting sections, memory problems that make wmm lag and lock up on you, you're either using a codec it dislikes (xvid, divx, old windows avi codecs, wmv) or you're copying too large a section at a time. If your vid has a lot of small clips, fades overlapping clips, or effects that are complicated your best bet is to copy a really small section - like 6 seconds at most. Just think - wmm has memory problems by itself so trying to 'store' a 20 second part of the timeline so you can paste it somewhere else is a sure fired way to overload it. Stick with 10 seconds or less if you have to copy parts of your timeline. It'll save you some trouble.

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Post by Osakaisthebomb » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:17 pm

Sorry for my lack of great grammar or explanation skills.

Well, WMM will freeze everytime I even try to click on any part of the project. This is the last straw. I'm sick of this mess. All I need to know now is wether or not I can open the project file in any other video editor program. If so, my lastest video has hope. If not, it will never see the light of day.

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