vob to avi

Minion · Post by **Minion** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:00 pm

took up 18 gigs, but it works. other than a few lines goes across the screen at a few parts, it looks great.
i'm doing it again with lagarith to see if it can do the same with a smaller file size.
thanks. ur all 1337 in my book

bum · Post by **bum** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:56 pm

jbone wrote:
bum wrote:besides me forgeting to de-interlace, my latest vid looks fine . And its not like minion said they were gona be doing any editing with the footage. She/he could simply want to back-up thier dvd's.
I believe the larger issue is that bum is borderline psychotic, masquerades on Internet forums alterately as either male or female, and indiscriminately says whatever he believes will draw attention to himself, rather than give out any factual information.

In that light, never believe anything that bum says.

*ouch

(Oh and, I'm only ever on two board, both of which I've told everyone that I'm a guy, which I am. most of the time I do give out straight logical answers. but thing is, I believe that if you edit with a good 300MB divx and then export your vid to a decent xvid or whatever, the vast magority of people will not be able to tell the difference without stoping and comparing single frames from varios encodes of the source. And that in itself would be a meaningless way to compare quality.)

WonJohnSoup · Post by **WonJohnSoup** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:41 am

Got this thread on a search.

You guys got to help me. I followed Destiny's guide for the msot part, until I ran the .vob file through DVD2AVI. At that point, I just turned them straight into .AVI files. I ran the first few .AVI files through Windows Movie Maker 2.1, and other than those interlace lies showing up big time, it worked. I figured I'd just finish the video and "de-interlace" the final product.

Then I downloaded Premiere 6.0 Trial, and I don't want to go back to WMM2. The problem is, these .AVI files aren't being accepted into Premiere to be imported!!! Why??? I have very little computer skills, so I had no idea what or how to use AVIsynth until like 20 minutes ago. But I've got about 2 hours worth of .AVI I want to use, from 4 DVDs I ripped from. All that work. Don't tell me I have to re-rip the whole thing again if I want to use Premiere......

Thanx for any help

WonJohnSoup · Post by **WonJohnSoup** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:53 am

And oh, it USED to give me this message:

"Couldnt locate decompressor for format 'MPG4' (Microsoft High-Speed MPEG-4). VirtualDub [Premiere used to say the same thing] require a Video for Windows (VFW) compatible codec to decompress video. Directshow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media Player, are not suitable. Only "Direct stream copy" is available for this video."

Premiere used to almost say the exact same thing. Now it just says, "File uses an unsupported compression format" when I try to impor the .AVI

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:16 am

WonJohnSoup wrote:You guys got to help me. I followed Destiny's guide for the msot part, until I ran the .vob file through DVD2AVI. At that point, I just turned them straight into .AVI files. I ran the first few .AVI files through Windows Movie Maker 2.1, and other than those interlace lies showing up big time, it worked. I figured I'd just finish the video and "de-interlace" the final product.

Then I downloaded Premiere 6.0 Trial, and I don't want to go back to WMM2. The problem is, these .AVI files aren't being accepted into Premiere to be imported!!! Why??? I have very little computer skills, so I had no idea what or how to use AVIsynth until like 20 minutes ago. But I've got about 2 hours worth of .AVI I want to use, from 4 DVDs I ripped from. All that work. Don't tell me I have to re-rip the whole thing again if I want to use Premiere......

It's issues like this that are the reason the guides recommend <I>not actually using DVD2AVI to save AVI files,</i> but rather, to save .D2V files for each .VOB chain, which can then be served via AVISynth and either used directly in Premiere or used to make big, lossless source clips in VirtualDub(/Mod). Plus, DVD2AVI's AVI-saving capabilities have been borked for a while now, I'm told.

You mentioned Microsoft High-Speed MPEG-4. Premiere doesn't like working with MPEG-4 codecs (including DivX, XviD, 3ivx, etc.); they don't make good source files for a number of reasons.

You don't have to re-rip everything, just re-index everything in DVD2AVI (and by that I mean save .D2V project files) and set up scripts for them.

Tono_Fyr · Post by **Tono_Fyr** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:19 am

Actually, making high quality video going directly from .VOB > .AVI is rather easy with VDub Mod. Just got to poor some extra bitrate on it to make it look really good.

Simply open the .VOB in VDM and go to filters, feild bob, and then choose smooth on both. Use about 1700 bitrate and cut the audio out by going to streams, stream list, just mess around til you think "alright, this stream won't be comming through" then click "save as...", name it, and blam. You have a very beautiful file that is perfect for editing. I've seen a FEW problems, but that can be solved by kicking the bitrate up more. If you're using it for footage, then you don't need the audio. The file sizes aren't THAT bad once the audio is gone (280~ megs). Everything that I put through DVD2AVI came out looking like shit. Oh yeah, and don't deinterlace. Deinterlace doesn't work.

~Tono~ at least not well...

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:18 am

Tono_Fyr wrote: feild bob, and then choose smooth on both.

oh yeah - big improvement there ~_~

WonJohnSoup · Post by **WonJohnSoup** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:56 pm

Thanx, guys. I went through more of these threads, and what seemed to work for me was to download gspot from www.doom9.org, check what codec my .AVI files needed, downloaded that codec, and now Premiere accepts the files. The ONLY problem now, is that when I save a 10 second test project with Premiere that starts out from a 24 mb file, it usually gives me a 300 mb file. I'm saving with Microsoft AVI with no compression. I've tried saving with Huffyuv under Premiere, but that only takes it down to 120 mb. I've tried runnin the 300 mb uncompressed project from Premiere under VirtualDub using Huffyuv, but that only brings it down to arond 100 - 120 mb.

The music video I'm planning is around 4:30 long. Won't that make it several gigs uncompressed and still a few hundred megabytes compressed with huffyuv??? And oh, I'm not using anime for this video, but live action footage from DVDs.

Tono_Fyr · Post by **Tono_Fyr** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:16 pm

post-it wrote:
Tono_Fyr wrote: feild bob, and then choose smooth on both.

oh yeah - big improvement there ~_~

There's no way that's DVD footage. This clears up most of the drag, and doesn't improve overall picutre quality, that's why I said crank up the bitrate.

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:28 pm

Tono_Fyr wrote:
post-it wrote:
Tono_Fyr wrote: feild bob, and then choose smooth on both.

oh yeah - big improvement there ~_~
There's no way that's DVD footage.

http://www.streamload.com/merlins_magic/microb1.jpg

WonJohnSoup
- there are many methods of making AVI's using Xvid and this is just one way:
take the Horizontal size = 512
take the Vertical size = X 384
making us the value = 196608

take 196608 ÷ 80 = 2457.6

that number, 2457, is your CBR value in Xvid Encoding. - try it