Ripping without DeCSS (NGE) ^^

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:58 pm

not to mention if you rip it without descrambling it it looks pretty fucked up

I did so once with a tenchi dvd :]

Aetherfukz · Post by **Aetherfukz** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 5:14 am

Hmm... well CSS isn't the worst thing ever. I mean, I don't really care if I rip with 10x or only 2x, it never takes much more than 10 minutes anyway. But what's making me matters is converting the avs files into MJPEGs. Today, when I got up (real late

) I started the PC, and let VirtualDub convert 3 DVDs when I'm at work. But the estimated time was about 4 hours per DVD, so horrible 12 hours! That mean, the conversion won't even be finished when I come home

So, is it normal to take so long for encoding? I thought that the MJPEG codec is really fast...

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:46 am

Aetherfukz wrote:Hmm... well CSS isn't the worst thing ever. I mean, I don't really care if I rip with 10x or only 2x, it never takes much more than 10 minutes anyway.

Some of us oppose CSS on principle. When people use a proprietary encryption system to protect data, ignore the fact that every professional cryptographer says that it's crap, and then hide behind the law instead of their encryption algorithms...it's not only pathetic, but it's kinda scary.

Aetherfukz · Post by **Aetherfukz** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:49 am

I didn't meant it that way. What I was trying to say, is that CSS sure isn't an almost-uncrackable encryption like PGP or something. So this is a pretty good thing for us AMV makers, for when they would use some high-end cypher, we had to go back to fansubs (well... would they exist then...?)

Ashyukun · Post by **Ashyukun** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 8:34 am

Fansubs would still exist- they just might not be of as high a quality as some these days. It'll be a while before the 'analog hole' is plugged- even if a nearly uncrackable encryption was applied to the digital data on the discs (which is somewhat hard to believe, as it has to be playable on any DVD player, and therefore would eventually be extracted and exploited), you could still hook up the output (RCA or S-Vid) of your DVD player to an analog capture card. Plus, from my understanding LDs are still more common in Japan than here. I believe a reasonable amount of fansubbing is done analog with overlay cards to add the subtitles anyway, so as long as they don't make Macrovision harder to bypass, traditional fansubs should be fairly safe.

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 9:17 pm

Aetherfukz wrote:Hmm... well CSS isn't the worst thing ever. I mean, I don't really care if I rip with 10x or only 2x, it never takes much more than 10 minutes anyway. But what's making me matters is converting the avs files into MJPEGs. Today, when I got up (real late ) I started the PC, and let VirtualDub convert 3 DVDs when I'm at work. But the estimated time was about 4 hours per DVD, so horrible 12 hours! That mean, the conversion won't even be finished when I come home
So, is it normal to take so long for encoding? I thought that the MJPEG codec is really fast...

I just do "Fast Recompress" with the Morgan Mulitmedia MJPEG set at around 1 quality. Well, I've never done it, but that's what I'm going to do. Anyways, choose "Fast Recompress" and not "Full Processing Mode". That should make the compression time less, and use 1- quality on the MM MJPEG or the PicVideo version. It should decrease the filesize (Even at 720x480 res) and it will speed up the conversion process.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 10:04 pm

MJPEG is fast, it's the AVS frame server + decoding mpeg2 that's slow.

~klinky

Aetherfukz · Post by **Aetherfukz** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 10:58 am

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:I just do "Fast Recompress" with the Morgan Mulitmedia MJPEG set at around 1 quality. Well, I've never done it, but that's what I'm going to do. Anyways, choose "Fast Recompress" and not "Full Processing Mode". That should make the compression time less, and use 1- quality on the MM MJPEG or the PicVideo version. It should decrease the filesize (Even at 720x480 res) and it will speed up the conversion process.

I did Fast Recompress... but at quality 5, but I'll try 1 the next time...

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 1:15 pm

What are your PC specs, BTW?

Aetherfukz · Post by **Aetherfukz** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 2:47 pm

AMD Thunderbird 900
256 MB RAM
GeForce 2 MX (I didn't know back then

)
Some crappy 8MB S3 Graphiccard for MultiMonitoring
60 + 30 GB HD
12x DVD
Windows XP Pro

YOu could also check my org Profile for that