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pyro_256 · Post by **pyro_256** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:55 pm

do you need a dvd-rom to rip dvds?

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:00 pm

Yes. This should've gone into Video Hardware Help or something, although I'm pretty sure the guides cover it - hence, this question probably should've never been asked in the first place.

kmv · Post by **kmv** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:02 pm

Well, yeah.

If you have a capture card then you could use a DVD player.

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:19 pm

If you want to rip them then yes. Or you can just get a capture card.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 1:42 am

Beware though that some capture cards are affected by Macrovision and you would have to make sure you got a card that didn't support Macrovision or get a "break-out box" that would remove the Macrovision.

In all, you would be looking at probably $100 for the capture card solution or $30 for the DVD-ROM solution.

The DVD-ROM solution will give you better looking results as well.

I would suggest you get a DVD-ROM & make sure you have atleast 20GB of space free on your hard drive.

~klinky

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 11:22 am

klinky wrote:Beware though that some capture cards are affected by Macrovision and you would have to make sure you got a card that didn't support Macrovision or get a "break-out box" that would remove the Macrovision.

In all, you would be looking at probably $100 for the capture card solution or $30 for the DVD-ROM solution.

The DVD-ROM solution will give you better looking results as well.

I would suggest you get a DVD-ROM & make sure you have atleast 20GB of space free on your hard drive.

~klinky

There is a good question there. If someone were to purchase some kind of cool DV editing card (I know they are expensive, but just for kicks, lets assume that person can afford it) would it not be easier on the system to simply capture into DV? I mean, then you aren't doing anyof that funky AVIsynth crap that makes your computer hate you and makes you pull your hair out while waiting for frames to load.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:19 pm

Most likely your editing would be faster using captured source.

But also the fact is you're probably going to be using more space than if you were going to use DVDs. DV codec = big ;o. There is the fact too that if you forget a scene you have to lug your DVD player over to the computer again. Also finding scenes using FFWD, RWD buttons is not that fun.

Also you lose quality using a lossy compressor(DV = lossy). You would still have to use AVISynth if you wanted to do IVTC or 2DCleaning.

So technically the DV codec may be easier on your computer, but the manual labor of it is much more intensive than ripping a DVD.

Also you can get the same speed or better, by doing the MJPEG swap method with your DVD editing, rather then editing with the AVS file itself.

~klinky

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:38 pm

Klinky's right. My capturecard is a DV source and the files are huge. My captured footage for a single video can sometimes run up to about ten gigs at that codec. Also, capturing is a bit more frustrating than ripping but more accurate (in my opinion) since I only get the scenes I want wheras ripping I would just take a whole episode.