New PC Monitor

[Tiiscool]

Hello,

I would like to buy a new Monitor.

What kind of technical features are important ?
I need it for:

• for PC and PS2
  PAL and NTSC
  for Games like Tomb Raider, In the Groove
  or Dance Dance Revolution, Beatmania, (NTSC)
  so reaction time is important
  and of course for AMV!!!
  it shall also by my "TV", I watch always with my TV
  also for normal office programs

Price: 500 - 800 Euro

Best regards,
Ti

[post-it]

.. are you good at math ?? .. most monitors today are only 1440 X 900 ( 16:10)

.. do you need it to be DPMI or VGA .. built for ATSC Reception ??? .. 5ms refresh ??

.. if a monitor is only as good as you can afford, then possibly wait until they get it right

.. just a thought!

[Tiiscool]

Hello,

I need a new monitor. The old one sucks.

It is 21" but very very old. (Was only 20 Euro).
My eyes will be happy to have a new monitor.

Ti

[Tiiscool]

Hello,

I will buy the Dell 2407WFP.

What I learned:

first you have to decide: TV or PC Monitor
- PC Monitor: highest is 24" ?
- DCL-TFT TV Monitor smallest: 32"
- I looked at some TVs and I tthink it is only for watching TV
- when you want a PC/TV Screen, chose a PC Monitor
- price: the same size: TV is cheap, PC monitor is expensive
- for example 32" TV cost nearly the same as 24" PC

Reaction time
- "Reaktionszeit: 16 ms (Schwarz-Weiß), 6 ms (Graustufen)"
- Reactiontime: 1 ms (black to hwite), 6 ms (grey)
There are two types of data. 8ms can be the same as 16 ms When I first checked the 2407WFP I was surprised: 16 ms, that is bad. But here it means from black to grey to white (8 ms + 8ms). Normally (I think) the reaction time is written only the first number.

PC / TV monitor:
yes they do exist, but they are not known very well. And of course they are more expensive. My friend has one with scart and I will get one with S-Video.

Resolution:
- 4:3
- 16:9
- 16:10 special for PC monitors, will become standard ?
- ...??

Cu,
Ti

[BasharOfTheAges]

Resolution:
- 16:9
- 16:10 special for PC monitors, will become standard ?

Square vs rectangualr pixels there... They're the same. (AFAIK)

[Jnzk]

Resolution:
- 16:9
- 16:10 special for PC monitors, will become standard ?

Square vs rectangualr pixels there... They're the same. (AFAIK)

They're not. On a 16:10 PC monitor you will see narrow black bars on standard 16:9 material.

[BasharOfTheAges]

I thought that had something to do with the encoding difference. ::

[BasharOfTheAges]

Sorry for double-post but the math I was going on was as follows:

16(0.9):9 = (16 * 0.9) / 9 = 14.4 / 9 = 1.6
16(1.0):10 = (16 * 1.0) / 10 = 16 / 10 = 1.6

A bit drawn out and pedantic, but I wanted to stress the multiplicitive nature of PAR and the fact that ":" denotes ratio. How is this not correct?

[Willen]

Computer monitors are nearly all square pixels today (I'd actually be surprised to find one that uses rectangular pixels aside from a plasma monitor). Depending on how your video settings are, on a 16:10 monitor (1920x1200, 1680x1050, 1440x900, 1280x800, etc) playing back 16:9 video should result in thin black bars added at the top and bottom of the screen in full-screen mode. Certain video cards/chipsets will allow you to stretch the video (ignoring the proper aspect ratio) to fill the entire monitor screen. Some player software can/will do this too.

My two 19" 5:4 monitors (1280x1024) have thin black bars top and bottom when playing 4:3 videos (larger bars when playing widescreen material). The screen on my notebook is 16:10 (1280x800) and playing 16:9 videos thin black bars appear on the top and bottom; playing 4:3 videos results in "pillarboxes" or black bars on the sides of the video to fit the wide screen.

[BasharOfTheAges]

Well, yes, a 16:10 display will play 16:9 video with black bars on the top and the bottom. I can choose to not resize my 720x480 video from a 4:3 DVD when I rip it and play it and it'll play with bars as well - in addition, circles won't look right and people will look fatter. AFAIK, The standard of 16:9 was for TVs with rectangular pixels - when put onto a computer monitor (with square pixels) it maintains the 16:9 qualities and what you see (because of the shape of each pixel being distorted) is something that doesn't quite look right yet follows the standards set by the AR flags.

(it's difficult to wrap this all up in my head properly without drawing a picture, but it seems to make sence to me... i'd like to see evidence to the contrary though)