Dual Monitor + Capture Card Crud

CodeZTM · Post by **CodeZTM** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:27 pm

I just purchased a dual monitor card + a video capture card. For the video capture card, I have installed the driver and my computer recognizes the device, but the software (did not come with the device because the device did not come with software) does not read the card. As for the dual monitor, I have opened the inside of my computer and realized that the place where I am supposed to insert the card does not exist! It won't fit anywhere in my computer! Is there something I am doing wrong, or can I just purchase an adapter-like think to install into my hardware that will allow me to insert the card?

Sorry for the idiotic questions!

Code_Chrono

Purge · Post by **Purge** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:01 pm

what is the name of the hardware and the software so we can get some specs.

If the capture card is working properly windows movie maker or Virtual dub should be able to see it under they're device choices if you use there capture video options.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:29 pm

First off, what type of Video Card (dual monitor card) did you purchase?
1. PCI (Peripheral Component Interconnect)
2. AGP (Accelerated/Advanced Graphics Port)
3. PCI Express (PCIe) <--- this type of card is VERY different from the above listed PCI card. Unfortunately the developers of the standard didn't think that having a similar name to the old PCI would be that confusing, but I beg to differ.

Secondly, what type of expansion slot is available on your computer's motherboard? Most state-of-the-art video cards and motherboards available today are using the PCIe interface. Older computer motherboards and video cards generally used AGP (1997 - today). Before that, video cards were usually using the VESA Local Bus (now obsolete) until PCI eventually took over in 1994-6 (1992 - today). Now, what does this mean for you?

Check to see where your monitor is connected currently. If the VGA port is located in the keyboard/mouse/USB connector blocks, then you have an integrated video graphics chipset. Now the question is, do you have a PCIe or AGP slot to upgrade your existing graphics? Some older computers that have integrated video (not using a discrete video card) did use an optional, empty AGP slot for upgrading/replacing the built-in video graphics, but there are quite a few that did not. In those cases, the only solution would be to use a PCI video card. Most newer integrated motherboards have a PCIe slot for graphics upgrades.

If the monitor is connected to a card, you are in luck! You just have to find out what type of card it is now (most likely AGP), and replace it with a dual monitor capable one.

As for adapters, well, technically it is possible to produce some slot/card combinations and there are some that are actually available. But there is the issue of card height (card + adapter = too tall to fit into the computer case unless you specifically get a low height video card). And the compromises involved in adapting different protocols to each other will definately mean reduced performance.

CodeZTM · Post by **CodeZTM** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:31 am

The video card is a PCI card, but I have no clue about the dual monitor card, because the card is strange. I couldn't recognize it from the wiki pictures, so I took some pretty pictures! As for the specs:

Dual Monitor Card:

Samsung 103 K406232HA-QC60

Video Card:

Bt848AKPF
Video Decoder
BF8384.4 9835

My software is Windows Movie Maker for the import of video footage. I'm so sorry for being such a pest about this. I already googled this, but couldn't come up with much. All I could find was the driver for the VCC, but nothing for the Dual Monitor card. I can't even put the monitor card inside my computer! Sigh*

Pics:
Video Capture Card
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f73/c ... 010003.jpg
Monitor Card
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f73/c ... 010002.jpg
Monitor Card
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f73/c ... 010001.jpg

Joe88 · Post by **Joe88** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:42 am

It looks like a AGP 8x card.
What brand and model is the card ?

CodeZTM · Post by **CodeZTM** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:48 am

I'm assuming that you mean the monitor card. I thought I had already posted it though... It is a Samsung 103 K4D62323HA-QC60.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:31 am

funny...I can't even get one mention of anything like what you have...even on the samsung site.

it does look like AGP...but from the link provided by Willen, it appears to have both 1.5v and 3.3v keys...which is odd

is the entire card made by samsung? or is the gpu &/or memory made by samsung, and the rest of the card made by another brand name?

as for the capture card...are you sure that you got the correct software/drivers (software for the pci version, there may also be drivers and software for agp/pci-e versions of the capture card)

...since you have a nice camera...would it be possible to take pictures of your motherboard?

CodeZTM · Post by **CodeZTM** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:53 am

Actually, upon further inspection, there was a small logo on the front (but w/o any information) that said Matrox 971-0301

For the motherboard:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f73/c ... 0002-1.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f73/c ... 0001-1.jpg

NeoQuixotic · Post by **NeoQuixotic** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:01 am

Well, there are no AGP slots on that mobo. Also, there are no such things as an adapter to change the slot. And a PII, sweet

! Looks like my old system. Return the card and save it for a new computer I'd say.

Joe88 · Post by **Joe88** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:04 am

that comp is old
ISA slots

is that comp a compaq btw ?

you will have to upgrade your comp to use that card