Battle Royal: Mac Vs. PC

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 3:24 pm

Lyrs wrote:I wouldn't mind using either a Mac or a PC if it provided me with the features i wanted at the right cost.

/end

I guess that rules out Macs

J89idsioss · Post by **J89idsioss** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:00 am

milatchi wrote:I have seen many a PC clone go bad *cough* "Magitronic" because of hardware but I don't think this is why Windows crashes like it does.

Excuse me 'cause I haven't read the rest of this thread yet.

But anyways...

An interesting thing I've discovered working with my EMachine (Worst parts ever used in a PC) is that even with my horribly degraded hardware, my PC rarely ever crashes unless there's an extra Microsoft program running (The OS and say.. Word). This even includes Explorer (File Browsing &/or Internet).

Hmm... I smell a rat. I've replaced almost all of my Microsoft Programs with other alternatives and now... No Crashes! (Except when browsing folders).

This is what has convinced me that it's mostly always Microsoft's software that's at fault, and rarely software.

It would be interesting to see a port of Mac OS onto PCs. Maybe it would reveal the truth behind Windows.

So I say hardwar wouldn't be problem if an operating system was written properly. Oh well.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:15 am

Poorly made hardware = no good. If there are signaling issues at the hardware level or the hardware doesn't function properly it's going to cause problems no matter what software you're running.

Your problem sounds more like a conflict. Just becuase your computer seems to crash when running all sorts of MS code doesn't mean all PCs do. I can run IE, Office, MS Paint, Notepad, Calc, VB, Explorer, MS Money all fine. No crashes.

If you want something close to Mac OS X then install Linux. If you really want OS X, go get a Mac. I don't think any System is going to come out for the PC anytime soon.

~klinky

J89idsioss · Post by **J89idsioss** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:23 am

Sorry I just needed to get the hate out...

BTW I'm using 98 (Don't say anything I know it's the worst ever made)

I've had better experiences with other computers using Microsoft code, but when I then installed the programs I use on my friends' computers, I never heard a complaint about crashes. They are using 98.

Another thing that I forgot to mention is that MS programs leak resorces like crazy under 98... Other programs leak diddly squat.

I'm working on replacing my computer at the same time as I type this. (Freedom! Later ya POS EMachine!)

Heh.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:40 am

Well you're using a 5yr old OS

. That's what you get.

2K/XP are going to give you a better time. I used to have to reboot everyday or else 98 would get dog slow. I can leave my computer on for weeks now and it acts just like it booted up. Also my server just logged about 1.5months of uptime with Win2k.

J89idsioss · Post by **J89idsioss** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:34 am

I love how everyone has been trying to tell me that 2000 and XP are worse than 98. Of course I don't beleive them. Me is the one that gives 2000 such a bad name right?
We are unable to install anything newer on this computer, Tried & it didn't work (Hardware incompatibilities, go figure) so I had to switch back. But even though windows has improved, I still can't say the same for Word, and a few other MS programs. Even if they're stable, I think they're junk. That's why I don't use them. What's your opinion on Internet Explorer? Same as always? Or have they improved it much?

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:48 am

Well, I think IE 6 is out for Win98 too :p

Also really doesn't make much sense that 2K won't work on your comp. My server is about 7yrs old and it runs 2K fine. :\

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:58 am

If Windows 2000 won't install because of hardware incompatibilities, then replace the bad hardware and try again.

98 isn't the worst, 95 and ME are worse than 98...

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 3:01 am

I'd go so far as to say ME is worse than 95. And MAYBE 3.11...

J89idsioss · Post by **J89idsioss** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 10:57 am

THE Worst = Me

I can belive that.
I can't replace the broken hardware 'cause I don't want to spend money on a computer I won't be using soon. My father is too cheap & says that the way it is now is just fine...
Sure. Right. Oh well. At least you guys answered my neighbor's question of wether or not they should install 2000 on thier comp.