Blu-Ray Burner?!

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:49 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
shinji13 wrote:Regardless, I think blu-ray is going to win, blu-ray is the better technology, and Sony is great and price slashing really quickly; by the end of the year it will drop to a reasonable price, hd-dvd is an inferior product and theres no sense on using a worst product when we have better.
BETA was a better product and we all know how that turned out, don't we.

I thought that was because Sony failed to get enough third-party support. In this case, Sony and Philips have the whole Blu-Ray Consortium behind them.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Tue May 08, 2007 7:45 pm

Well, one thing's for certain: The old adage of the porn industry basically deciding these things isn't going to help us - nobody wants HD porn.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:09 am

JaddziaDax wrote:arent lazer discs better than DVDs? i mean quality wise? they didnt last very long cause dvds are more compact..

Some Laserdiscs (LD) were better than their DVD versions. A few movie studios didn't quite figure out how to encode MPEG-2 video well at the time and the DVD versions of a few notable movies were worse looking than the LDs (Twister anyone?). Premium LDs also gave you true frame-by-frame search forward and backwards (CAV) instead of DVD and MPEG-2's I-frame and P-frame rigmarole. Not to mention that many early DVDs were bare-bone affairs featuring the movie and a navigable menu if you were lucky (some people may argue that these simpler DVDs are better since some menu sequences are so long or annoying, you'd wish they weren't there). Since LD's target audience were the home theater enthusiasts, there were many LD releases that featured director and/or cast commentaries, production sketches or photos, and sometimes a deluxe collector's edition would be available that came with an artbook or some other goodie. Heck, for the longest time, the only format that Star Wars was available on that wasn't VHS was Laserdisc.

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Wed May 09, 2007 10:33 am

JaddziaDax wrote:arent lazer discs better than DVDs? i mean quality wise? they didnt last very long cause dvds are more compact..

LDs lasted over twenty years commercially, a bit longer in Japan. Japanese anime releases on LD - as opposed to stateside LD anime - were usually major productions that included boxes and artwork.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Thu May 10, 2007 6:11 am

TaranT wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:arent lazer discs better than DVDs? i mean quality wise? they didnt last very long cause dvds are more compact..
LDs lasted over twenty years commercially, a bit longer in Japan. Japanese anime releases on LD - as opposed to stateside LD anime - were usually major productions that included boxes and artwork.

My [url=http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/22898/PIL ... Set-(1992)]Green Legend Ran LD Box[url] begs to differ.

But generally, you are correct. Although many early Pioneer LD US anime releases mimicked their Japanese versions. Other companies didn't go as far due to costs and some other technical reasons.

Yok/0 · Post by **Yok/0** » Thu May 17, 2007 12:21 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Well, one thing's for certain: The old adage of the porn industry basically deciding these things isn't going to help us - nobody wants HD porn.

I believe I saw something about this on the news about how disney doesn't want to be associated with Blu-ray or HD-dvd when it comes to the porn industry moving up to the next format.

God forbid Mickey Mouse Can't Look good sitting next to Jenna Jameson, Chasey Lain, Ron Jeremy, Kobe Tai, Sandra Romain, and of course Lassie.

Honestly I don't see why Porn wants to step it's game up? Ugh Why we wanna see that in HD even?

On to subject at hand though..

I agree to the idea of not buying either of these til this comes to terms, and this Hybrid player thats suppose to take care of both, I think won't even settle this between the 2 power houses.

This Format War will probably last as long as the console war still is going on.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Thu May 17, 2007 12:38 am

in a sorta-related story
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3159554
the ps3, beacon of [semi-affordable] blu-ray...is flopping (what a surprise, but what is really a surprise is that it's so much of a bust that it can't be covered by profits from other divisions)
I'm still pulling for blu-ray

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Thu May 17, 2007 12:44 am

Willen wrote: But generally, you are correct. Although many early Pioneer LD US anime releases mimicked their Japanese versions. Other companies didn't go as far due to costs and some other technical reasons.

Laser Disc played such a major role in how Kimagure Orange Road was distributed both in Japan, and especially in the United States, that the format's effect on the legacy of said series cannot be understated.

AnimEigo actually thanked each and every fan-investor that ordered a KOR LD set in KOR's credits. Without those pre-orders, AE would not have been able to afford licensing, manufacture, and distribution of the series in the US, and they knew full well that if enough of us didn't toss money at the Japanese, none of us would get our KOR.

Only semi-related, but interesting none-the-less. Both LD sets were beautiful, but the Japanese set was amazing, including compact disc soundtracks (new for 1987!) and lithographs of Akemi Takada's work. I still cannot afford to laydown the $300-$500 for the basic set, let alone more like $1000 for the premium set.

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Thu May 17, 2007 2:28 am

Willen wrote:My Green-Legend-Ran-Box-Set-(1992)]Green Legend Ran LD Box begs to differ.

But generally, you are correct. Although many early Pioneer LD US anime releases mimicked their Japanese versions. Other companies didn't go as far due to costs and some other technical reasons.

I still remember laying hands on the Studio Ghibli ga Ippai set. Twelve discs plus extra stuff; must have weighed 20-30 pounds. Couldn't convince myself to shell out $1000 to get it.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Thu May 17, 2007 5:44 am

Kionon wrote:
Willen wrote: But generally, you are correct. Although many early Pioneer LD US anime releases mimicked their Japanese versions. Other companies didn't go as far due to costs and some other technical reasons.
Laser Disc played such a major role in how Kimagure Orange Road was distributed both in Japan, and especially in the United States, that the format's effect on the legacy of said series cannot be understated.

AnimEigo actually thanked each and every fan-investor that ordered a KOR LD set in KOR's credits. Without those pre-orders, AE would not have been able to afford licensing, manufacture, and distribution of the series in the US, and they knew full well that if enough of us didn't toss money at the Japanese, none of us would get our KOR.

Only semi-related, but interesting none-the-less. Both LD sets were beautiful, but the Japanese set was amazing, including compact disc soundtracks (new for 1987!) and lithographs of Akemi Takada's work. I still cannot afford to laydown the $300-$500 for the basic set, let alone more like $1000 for the premium set.

I wish I had the cash to get the Japanese LDs. The artwork for the covers are beautiful and if I'm not mistaken, it's the only way to get the Music Version music videos (singly or as part of the Memorial box).

On a side note, I noticed that I messed up that link on my previous post. I must have been tired then.