[E3] Encoding/Editing/Exporting Very-Huge Files

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:55 am

Hi guys, I need some advices. =)
I'm editing with extremely long videos, so when I rip them from the DvD and then to the Avs for VirtualDub I export them with Fast Recompress and Lagarith (HuffyUv goes over the 100GB for Video and it really is too much).

After the Editing, how can I export them for the best quality?
Being Lags a lossless codec, encoding it again with Lagarith creates some quality loss?
And most important of all, what's the best codec for "Human" sizes?
What's the best thing I can do to create then a Good DVD-Video with the final work?

I have big doubts about Xvid being the best choice here, but I'm listening to you.

Thanks guys.

mirkosp · Post by **mirkosp** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:33 pm

Working and expirting with lagarith won't produce any quality loss (it's called lossless for a reason after all

).
About "human" sizes... well, either you just make clips (basically you convert to lagarith from the dvd the scenes you're sure you're gonna use) or you could use vfapi.

mirkosp · Post by **mirkosp** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:34 pm

mirkosp wrote:Working and exporting with lagarith won't produce any quality loss (it's called lossless for a reason after all ).
About "human" sizes... well, either you just make clips (basically you convert to lagarith from the dvd the scenes you're sure you're gonna use) or you could use vfapi.

Damn, I didn't notice the typo in the preview... fixed.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:34 am

Thanks for your everlasting help.

About the "Human" sizes, I don't mean the Video Files I'm editing With, but the ones I'll do Have to put on DVD or Different Supports for "Premiering" the work.

The Video will probably be 3 Hours long, so at least 1:30h per DvD.
Since the Original video is from the (This one is immortal :p) PSX console, the Quality is 640x480 but the Video is of course 720x576 (PAL), so the quality is already little blurry.. And my question was: Having the "Final" Lagarith Work, what compressor should I use for the Best "Quality/Size" ending?

And pardon my ignorance, I know vfapi just by "name".. Is some kind of Avi cutter?
Any further help will be greatly appreciated, thanks Mirko.

Qyot27 · Post by **Qyot27** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:43 pm

[Mike of the Desert] wrote:And pardon my ignorance, I know vfapi just by "name".. Is some kind of Avi cutter?
Any further help will be greatly appreciated, thanks Mirko.

VFAPI is a fake AVI creator. Kind of one step beyond what AviSynth does, since both serve as dummy AVI files, but VFAPI actually creates an AVI proxy to use, which can then be used in programs which don't support AviSynth scripts.

Anyone who knows VFAPI usage better can correct me of course. I've never had a need to use VFAPI.

mirkosp · Post by **mirkosp** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:31 am

Well, if you need a codec for the final compression for distribution, as of now, the best choice for quality/size is h264.
About VFAPI, Qyot is right, it's used to serve avisynth scripts to programs that don't support .avs input... so you could edit files without the need to convert your source to a lossless codec like lagarith/huffyuv but just using the .VOB if you're editing with a dvd source or perhaps with the .avi/.mkv/whatever if you're using RAWs or fansubs... you won't have the problems that you encounter when editing with xvid/divx directly, but it will be slower than editing with lossless, depending on your computer specs.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:35 pm

mirkosp wrote:Well, if you need a codec for the final compression for distribution, as of now, the best choice for quality/size is h264.
About VFAPI, Qyot is right, it's used to serve avisynth scripts to programs that don't support .avs input... so you could edit files without the need to convert your source to a lossless codec like lagarith/huffyuv but just using the .VOB if you're editing with a dvd source or perhaps with the .avi/.mkv/whatever if you're using RAWs or fansubs... you won't have the problems that you encounter when editing with xvid/divx directly, but it will be slower than editing with lossless, depending on your computer specs.

Thanks a lot guys, I'll do my best to use thus advices.
Do you know any guide about using the h264?

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:36 pm

*this

Vivaldi · Post by **Vivaldi** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:21 pm

The new EADFAG has a section on h264 MP4, and amvAPP 3.0 includes the zarxGUI, which makes encoding to it almost obscenely easy.

mirkosp · Post by **mirkosp** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:38 pm

Vivaldi wrote:The new EADFAG has a section on h264 MP4, and amvAPP 3.0 includes the zarxGUI, which makes encoding to it almost obscenely easy.

Added links for help and lulz.