PicVideo MJPEG .avi's make Premiere crash..!?

[Aetherfukz]

OK. So i ripped the End of Evangelion, and yesterday I converted them via VirtualDub and the MJPEG codec into small (if you count 2gigs as small ) AVIs. But when I try to open them with WMP, it just closes right after loading, and ZoomPlayer plays a few secs, and then crashes. Now I tried the AVI in Premiere, and I wasn't surprised a bit that I too crashed like hell (I mean, I KNOW Premiere...)

Anyone knows what could be my Problem?
Here are a few more specs for ya:

My system is:
AMD Athlon 900
256MB RAM
60 + 30 GB IDE
MSI StarForce 64 (GeForce 2 MX)
Windows XP Pro

And that's what I did with the video:
Ripped the DVD with Smartripper,
made the .avs files:
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
AssumeFPS(24)
And run it finally thru VDub with the settings from the guide (fast compress, MJPEG codec w/ quality 5)

Help would be very appreciated.

Peace & Respect
-- Aetherfukz

[Aetherfukz]

Well, still got no answers and no clue on how to fix this. Today when I was at work, my home PC encoded the first 3 DVDs to MJPEG avis. And when I got home I tried the avi, and just as they was used to, the Media Player and Premiere both crash when trying to open the file.
Then I thought it could be because the files are just a little over the 2 gigabyte border, and my drives are all FAT32. But, I can open and view the files in VirtualDub, so that shouldn't make the problem.

I did everything according to the guides, but now I have absolutely no clue what to do.
Here are the specs of the avi files:



Please, I really need help on this one, because I hardly can't wait so start editing!
*looking faithfully over to Ermac, AD and the other l33t guys*

[AbsoluteDestiny]

my drives are all FAT32. But, I can open and view the files in VirtualDub, so that shouldn't make the problem.

Wrong.

Virtualdub is a special case. I could explain why but I can't be arsed.

Compress more.

[klinky]

Oh yes, while you're at it recompressing. I would definitely, crop the black bars out of the side and do aspect ratio correction. Unless you don't want it that way(DVD exporting!???). Those pesky black borders mess with me all the time :... O and having to fix the aspect at the end is kinda crappy.

I would just get it all done in at one time.
Tis here is my AVS script :

loadplugin("C:\media tools\filters\mpeg2dec.dll")
loadplugin("C:\media tools\filters\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("evadisc01.d2v")
Telecide(guide=1)
Decimate(cycle=5)
Crop(12,6,-5,-7)
BicubicResize(640,480)



~klinky

[klinky]

my drives are all FAT32. But, I can open and view the files in VirtualDub, so that shouldn't make the problem.

Wrong.

Virtualdub is a special case. I could explain why but I can't be arsed.

Compress more.

^_^ - I would like to know why it's a special case, when you're less arsed or something ? ?


~klinky

[ErMaC]

VirtualDub (and AVISynth) open files via the OpenDML spec which allows for AVI files of like a terabyte or something disgusting. Premiere only follows the AVI2.0 spec which allows for a max AVI size of 2GB. Anything beyond that and the file becomes corrupted. So Premiere not opening them properly while VDub can makes sense.

[klinky]

http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/100d2.htm

Premiere 6.x uses OpenDML, a standard based on Direct Show technology that extends the AVI specification to effectively remove file size limitations.

~klinky

[ErMaC]

Welp, looks like it does... and it doesn't ^_^

[klinky]

I imported a MJPEG clip over 2GB just fine, somehow I doubt it's a filesize issue. Unless he has Premiere 5, which is doubtful.

File Path: G:\evangeliontest.avi
File Size: 2.21GB bytes
Total Duration: 0:06:21:15
Average Data Rate: 5.94MB per second
Image Size: 720 x 480
Pixel Depth: 24 bits
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0.900
Frame Rate: 29.97 fps

AVI File details:
Contains 1 video track(s) and 0 audio track(s).

Video track 1:
Total duration is 0:06:21:15
Size is 2.21GB bytes (average frame = 203.17KB bytes)
There are 11449 keyframes.
Frame rate is 29.97 fps
Frame size is 720 x 480
Depth is 24 bits.
Compressor: 'MJPG', PICVideo MJPEG Codec


The only thing I can think of is possibly the encode got corrupted during encoding or something funky happend :\

Try again...



~klinky

[Aetherfukz]

Oh yes, while you're at it recompressing. I would definitely, crop the black bars out of the side and do aspect ratio correction. Unless you don't want it that way(DVD exporting!???). Those pesky black borders mess with me all the time :... O and having to fix the aspect at the end is kinda crappy.

Thanks for the tip. I will do this. I realized that the video looks a bit stretched, but I thought that would work out fine in the end... and I didn't even notice the small left and right borders

I don't think that there was an error while encoding, first because VDub didn't say anything, and second because I already encoded the same file 3 times, and neither one worked.

And for the filesize issue. I encoded just a few minutes of one avs file, and I also couldn't open the ~100MB file. Well, I don't know if you are able to open not-done MJPEG avi files, so I don't know if this help.
Anyway, I'm formatting my second hard drive right now, and will convert it to NTFS, maybe this helps...

Peace & Respect
-- Aetherfukz