NTSC/PAL Ripping and AviSynth questions...

Aetherfukz · Post by **Aetherfukz** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 5:19 am

Alrighty!

Yesterday I got the End of Eva DVD, so now my NGE collection is complete, and I'm going to rip the entire series for a new AMV. But here my question starts:

I am reading AbsoluteDestinys & Ermacs Guide right now about how to de-interlace and such things. But my prob is, I am using the standard NTSC DVDs, although I live in a PAL country.
IIRC, the PAL/NTSC thing shouldn't matter when you watch the movie on the computer, but what about when I make my whole project in NTSC, de-interlace it, and after eventually exporting the whole thing, burning it to VCD? Am I able to burn a PAL VCD then, or do I have to stick with the NTSC? Cause that would be kinda bad, cause I want to watch it on the big screen...

And another questions: I read the guide about how to de-interlace with AviSynth, I've made the scripts for it, but how the hell do I execute the program?

Help would be very appreciated.

Peace & Respect
-- Aetherfukz

Aetherfukz · Post by **Aetherfukz** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 6:29 am

Oh shame on me. I just read that I just have to open the avs file in Premiere 6.5... I thought that I have to kinda run the script first...
But the first question still stands...

turboneko · Post by **turboneko** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 9:26 am

After you have IVTC your footage and have it in progressive frames you can do pretty much whatever you want with it.
So my answer is yes: you can burn a PAL vcd out of it (TMPEG Encoder is your friend

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klinky · Post by **klinky** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 1:07 pm

Does TMPEG do some sort of telecining to get the 23.976 to 25fps PAL standard?

~klinky

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 3:15 pm

I doubt it, it probably just inserts 1 frame every sec er sumthin. Besides, he's using VCD, so there is no such thing as telecine
There are two ways to convert NTSC stuff to PAL (fps wise, res wise is eaaaaaaasyyyyyy noob stuff :P) once you have progressive 23.976 material you can either
A. speed it up to 25 fps (dont forget to speed up the audio too) this will play it faster but its doubtful you'd notice it.
B. speed up to 24 fps and insert a frame every second either by doubling the last frame or through a sort of telecine. Of course again with VCD that point is moot.

Aetherfukz · Post by **Aetherfukz** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:37 pm

Thansk for the quick help!
I've never needed such things as NTSC/PAL converting before. Doesn't it look a bit un-smoother when dropping the framerate from 29.97 to 25?

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 5:33 pm

bahhhhhh u didnt read! :O
you dont drop from 29.97 - 25 you IVTC from 29.97 - 23.976 and then speed up to 25 which would even make it smoother. If u don't know what IVTC is then read the guides

Aetherfukz · Post by **Aetherfukz** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 2:22 am

omg, did I really write thansk up there?

Anyway, I thought that IVTC does just remove the interlaceing, not doing anything with the framerate. So whenever I IVTC something, it also changes the movie to 23.976fps, right? So I have to do the 24fps thingy from the guide with premiere, with all the audio stretching too..?

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 2:32 am

Technically isn't going from anything other then FILM, telecining ?? Hmm Hmm ^_^. VCD PAL = 25fps, so he needs to somehow get it up to there, so yes it would matter. Adding frames would look like shishle and speeding up the video could cause audio "distortion" or desynchage.

PAL is so no win :p

~klinky

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 2:33 am

I will restate the question, technically isn't converting from one frame rate to another frame rate via manipulation of fields, telecine?

:p Obviously speeding up video is NOT telecining.

~klinky