Getting clips from DVDs - simple help?

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Getting clips from DVDs - simple help?

Post by Laryna6 » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:43 am

I'm sorry, I looked at the guides, but I can't make head nor tail of them. I own the DMC (Devil May Cry) Sound DVDs, which are basically official music videos set to the soundtracks. I want to get a couple of them to show to people. After poking around the guides (www.dvddecryter.com seems to be down), I used Easy DVD Clone to copy one of them to my desktop. I have the MVs in 3 .vob files, but they're all about a GB. I'm really very tech illiterate and have done nothing like this before. How can I select part of the files (get a section of footage), save it as... I don't care what type, as long as it can be played by something, as *simply* as possible? Because the guides are really too in-depth and I don't even know what those programs are. Do I need to get a shareware program? Which one? Should I ditch the copy I have and start over?

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Re: Getting clips from DVDs - simple help?

Post by Scintilla » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:25 pm

Laryna6 wrote:How can I select part of the files (get a section of footage), save it as... I don't care what type, as long as it can be played by something, as *simply* as possible?
Get <a href="http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net">VirtualDubMod</a> and the <a href="http://www.neuron2.net/www.math.berkele ... HuffYUV</a> codec.

Open the necessary VOB in VirtualDubMod.
Set the In and Out points to mark off the scene you want.
Under the Video menu, make sure "Fast recompress" is selected.
Under the Video menu, go to Compression and select HuffYUV.
Under the File menu, go to Save As... and save the file.

That simple enough?
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Post by Laryna6 » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:48 pm

Thank you! I'll try it now.

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Re: Getting clips from DVDs - simple help?

Post by Laryna6 » Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:13 pm

[quote="Scintilla"][quote="Laryna6"]How can I select part of the files (get a section of footage), save it as... I don't care what type, as long as it can be played by something, as *simply* as possible?[/quote]
Get <a href="http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net">VirtualDubMod</a> and the <a href="http://www.neuron2.net/www.math.berkele ... HuffYUV</a> codec.

Open the necessary VOB in VirtualDubMod.
Set the In and Out points to mark off the scene you want.
Under the Video menu, make sure "Fast recompress" is selected.
Under the Video menu, go to Compression and select HuffYUV.
Under the File menu, go to Save As... and save the file.

That simple enough?[/quote]

I'm sorry, but I've tried it several times and every time it ends up around 600 MB, the ~3 minute clip I want, and incredibly skippy. Do you have any advice? I've tired a few things and they didn't help.

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Post by trythil » Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:38 pm

I'm sorry, but I've tried it several times and every time it ends up around 600 MB, the ~3 minute clip I want, and incredibly skippy. Do you have any advice? I've tired a few things and they didn't help.
All of those are normal.

(1) HuffYUV files are big, due to (a) the algorithm used to encode what it needs to know and (b) the fact that you're compressing at least (say 8-bit RGB colorspace for simplicity) (720 * 480) * (24) * n bits, where n is the number of frames you're compressing. Although HuffYUV does a fairly good job of eliminating redundant information it still ends up with a pretty big file.

(2) Related to (1): HuffYUV files are big. They're not easy to play back, and it's likely that your system simply isn't fast enough to play them back in real time.

Neither of these problems affects any sort of final render. It's just playback.

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A more space-efficient method is to simply rip the DVDs and use mpeg2cut. This will, along with some additional indexing work (read the DGIndex guides), allow you to have the best of both worlds: high-quality clips of just what you need.

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Post by Laryna6 » Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:48 pm

[quote="trythil"][quote]
Neither of these problems affects any sort of final render. It's just playback.

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A more space-efficient method is to simply rip the DVDs and use [URL=http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downl ... t_294.html]mpeg2cut[/URL]. This will, along with some additional indexing work (read the DGIndex guides), allow you to have the best of both worlds: high-quality clips of just what you need.[/quote]

Yeah, the thing is playback is what I need. I don't want to use these for AMVs: they're already AMVs. I want something I can put on yousendit to show my friends. Additional indexing work? And the reason I posted this was because the guides were driving me nuts. I hate pdfs... but they're also written for people who are after something very different than what I need.

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Post by Laryna6 » Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:56 pm

Yay! 90MB is much better, and it zips to 86. But is there a quick way to get it smaller?

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Post by trythil » Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:14 pm

Laryna6 wrote:Yay! 90MB is much better, and it zips to 86. But is there a quick way to get it smaller?
Additional compression. This describes a popular procedure for XviD compression.

By the way, zipping video files doesn't usually gain you very much.

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Post by Laryna6 » Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:46 pm

[quote="trythil"][quote="Laryna6"]Yay! 90MB is much better, and it zips to 86. But is there a quick way to get it smaller?[/quote]

Additional compression. [URL=http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html]This describes a popular procedure for XviD compression.[/URL]

By the way, zipping video files doesn't usually gain you very much.[/quote]

It compresses them down to about 6 MB, but then nothing can read them.

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Post by Laryna6 » Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:59 pm

Nix last post. Two pass was too complicated, I did single pass and it worked, but now the audio won't work. And there is audio data in the file...

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