Just thinking...[future storage media?]

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Just thinking...[future storage media?]

Post by LightningCountX » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:45 pm

After being a noob and using downloaded footage, then finally getting a job in august and upgrading my computer with a dvd rom and buying assloads of dvd's. One thing bothers me...When will dvd's be replaced by something higher? This question may have been asked before so im sorry if im bringing this up again, but what are your thoughts about this?

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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:35 pm

There are a couple of ways it could go:

method 1: Bigger storage

With blu-ray and other technologies enabling much greater storage on data discs it is easily possible that MPEG2 will be extended for HDTV formats and HDDVD will be released.

method 2: better compression

mpeg4 variants, WMV, VP6 and h.264 are all being closely watched by the industry as possible new standards for hardware playback. EVD is a standard being pushed in Hong Kong which uses VP6 as the codec for compression (similar size/quality ratio as divx et al). It's too early to tell whether these initiatives will be sucessful.

method 3: mixture of both

I can see both technologies being major players, with mpeg4/h.264 streams being used for transmission and HDTV-MPEG2 being used for off-the-counter products like movie releases.

As for when... who knows.

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Post by the Black Monarch » Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:04 pm

Yeah, but those are still basically DVDs. I think he was thinking more along the lines of data crystals...
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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:25 pm

He'd still need to get a new player to play any of the above.

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Post by bum » Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:01 am

flopy storage started out at 180KB (or 320 mabey) and reached their limit at 2.88MB . similarly, CD's started at around 400MB (corect me if im wrong) and have reached a max of 900MB. so whats their to say that we woent be seeing DVD's going near something like 20GB ?

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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:25 pm

bum wrote: so whats their to say that we woent be seeing DVD's going near something like 20GB ?
Uhhh nothing... in fact that's exactly what I was talking about.

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Post by madbunny » Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:23 pm

When that happens I guess you can just store your dvd player in the garage next to that old betamax, atari 2600, and those boxes of laserdisks.

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Post by trythil » Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:13 am

madbunny wrote:When that happens I guess you can just store your dvd player in the garage next to that old betamax, atari 2600, and those boxes of laserdisks.
Nah. I think this is the way it will play out:


1. HD-DVD is released in about three incompatible incarnations. We have too many competing standards; consumers are confused.
2. Voices of reason spread warnings about the inevitable draconian content controls required by HD-DVD encoding standards. The geeks rise against this, although many still use HD-DVD in secret.
3. Somebody cracks the inevitably crappy content encryption scheme.
4. HD-DVD CCA whines like a 4-year-old hit with a stick. Voices of reason bitchslap the baby and tell them to STFU, with international support. It sort of works.
5. John Q. Public picks up some of this eventually. Chaos ensues.


I suppose it's fairly obvious that I don't have a very high opinion of corporations or any of this new HD-DVD stuff, especially given the DVD debacle. But hey, you never know.

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Post by bum » Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:12 am

madbunny wrote:When that happens I guess you can just store your dvd player in the garage next to that old betamax, atari 2600, and those boxes of laserdisks.
if i had an atari2600 id go make myself a few grand over at ebay :roll:

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Post by jonmartensen » Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:30 pm

bum wrote:
madbunny wrote:When that happens I guess you can just store your dvd player in the garage next to that old betamax, atari 2600, and those boxes of laserdisks.
if i had an atari2600 id go make myself a few grand over at ebay :roll:
ebay wrote:Atari 2600 system with 66 Games!!! Item number: 3082801104


Current bid: US $90.00
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