AfterEffects with AVS swapping

AznRAVEr1022 · Post by **AznRAVEr1022** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 2:37 pm

alright, im using the method where you make some temporary mjpeg avi's to edit with then swap them with the AVS scripts. But how do i use AfterEffects and still be able to do the swapping? like if i just wanted to alter a clip like put a mask on it or something then take it to premiere.

ErMaC · Post by **ErMaC** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 4:52 pm

AfterEffects won't import AVS files.

NME · Post by **NME** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 10:04 pm

But I do seem to remember ErMaC saying that if you made a project in premiere and had the AVS all laid out, you could import the project file into AE and use it, or maybe I'm dreaming.

AznRAVEr1022 · Post by **AznRAVEr1022** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 10:34 pm

so then how does one use aftereffects if they want to do the AVS swapping method?

ErMaC · Post by **ErMaC** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 3:14 am

You can't use the AVS swapping method with AE. Period.
And no the premiere project thingy doesn't work, I tried it. All the Premiere project thingy does is AE interprets the timeline of the premiere project and does it all internally - it doesn't make premiere do any work. Therefore, if AE can't read a file that's in the Premiere project, no go.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 3:34 am

Actually - there is a way, sorta...

fffvfw has recently added experimental avisynth proxy support. It creates a proxy file much like link2 or vfapi and this can be used in After Effects. AFAIK it works in some sort of YUV space but I dont have the details to hand.

However, it is still being developed so it's not fully stable or fully functional yet. Good to know that we may have a useable method in the future though.

Ashyukun · Post by **Ashyukun** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 11:30 am

So, until the fffvfw support is fully useable, the best way to handle it would be to run the swap so Preimere has the full-quality footage (via AVS) loaded up and then export the section you need the effects on into either HuffYUV or raw RGB (I like doing it raw as much as possible), import into AE, *AE MAGIC*, render from AE in Raw RGB (to avoid compressing it twice in HuffYUV, assuming you exported in it in the first place), and then reimport into Premiere. Right?

ErMaC · Post by **ErMaC** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 12:39 pm

Something like that.

And I wouldn't use FFVFW yet for any serious project. AE needs RGB input first off, and second the program is just still too flakey, and the developer has this habit of starting and stopping projects on a whim, I mean ffdshow has been neglected for months while he started working on ffvfw because the latter was more interesting to him at the time.

AznRAVEr1022 · Post by **AznRAVEr1022** » Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:14 pm

Ashyukun wrote:So, until the fffvfw support is fully useable, the best way to handle it would be to run the swap so Preimere has the full-quality footage (via AVS) loaded up and then export the section you need the effects on into either HuffYUV or raw RGB (I like doing it raw as much as possible), import into AE, *AE MAGIC*, render from AE in Raw RGB (to avoid compressing it twice in HuffYUV, assuming you exported in it in the first place), and then reimport into Premiere. Right?

yea i figured that was thje only way. thanx for all the info though cuz i was having a problem getting my freakin AE to do something. maybe ill try the fffvfw someday or something