Let's talk advanced encoding, and bitrates :)

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:49 pm

</flame war>

Please?

Wheee_It's_Me! · Post by **Wheee_It's_Me!** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:58 pm

Kalium wrote:</flame war>

Please?

I'm done with it, any further followups will be done in PM. I think I've made my public position on Tabs posturing as the ultimate authority on all things video more than clear.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:59 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:I'm done with it, any further followups will be done in PM. I think I've made my public position on Tabs posturing as the ultimate authority on all things video more than clear.

I said "</flame war>".

No more flames of any sort. Please? This could have been a useful thread, otherwise.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:24 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:
Tab. wrote:
Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:What was your source with those two captures? You do know that the quality of MPEG-1 encoding is highly dependant upon the quality of the soruce footage. Xvid is quite good about taking crap and maintaing the same level of quality, when you encode crap with MPEG-1 though yer gonna wind up with even shittier looking crap. If you took the digital master and encoded both of them using MPEG-1 and Xvid, they would look quite similar. Using newer forms of Xvid (anything within the past 2 years or so) the quality of the Xvid encode will be slightly higher, although the difference will be negligable to most. Again though, it's highly dependant on source, which is why encoding in Xvid is superior, because it does a good job of maintaining the same level of shit quality when reencoding.
Can you please point me to the line of logic that leads to something as ridiculous as "mpeg 4 is better at re-encoding than mpeg 1"? Let me guess, you got that from the same source as your "mpeg 4 is more lossy with chroma than mpeg 1" argument, right?
You know Tab, I might be inclined to take you seriously...had I not actually seen your rather pathetic attempt at head motion lip synching. I'm sorry, but OMG does that just look HORRIBLE. I especially like the parts where they talk when there's no lyrics and how their mouths seem to migrate around their head like magic. I mean, what, is it THAT hard to line up the mouth frames? *rolls eyes*

And the way that they're encoded, hell boi, I thought you were like "The Master", so why is the quality of your two vidoes *SO* unbelievably BAD?

Thing of it is Tab, the only thing you're good at is regurgitating crap that you slurped up from your betters over at Doom9, simply put, go get one of them to come over here if you want to see a debate regarding encoding methodology, cause I don't even consider you WORTHY enough for such an endeavor.

Um, you do realize that you never actually answered his question, right? And that some of us here might be interested in the answer.

NME · Post by **NME** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:43 pm

In the real life, if you can't lipsync, no one takes you seriously. I know people who can't. They never get invited to parties. SUBJUNCTIVE CLAUSE. Don't even think about talking to people who don't make AMVs, their opinions mean nothing. Forget the fact that those movie critics and music critics usually make neither movies nor albums. Third grade logic is fun. "zOMG you can't do any better so you shouldn't talk!!!" Can't expect everyone to make sense all the time, or any of the time in this case.

I'm done here.

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:09 am

Uh... Matt.. what the hell are you talking about? I've never made any actual videos. Unless you consider FINAL and FINAL2 as videos, in which case, well... no, I take that back. After seeing your work, I'm not surprised you can't tell the difference between BS and editing.

FYI, sysKin is a core developer on XviD and active member of Doom9. As is.. oh.. lemme think... AD (zettai)... Zarxrax... me...

Thing of it is Tab, the only thing you're good at is regurgitating crap that you slurped up from your betters over at Doom9

I'm flattered you've followed my personal endeavors in coding theory so closely and accurately. Ah, I've said it again and again Matt. What makes you special is that you manage to piss people off by being so obviously and stupidly presumptuous. Your methodology just screams "My logic is full of holes. Get mad at me. WAKE ME UP INSIDE."
Put down the razors Matt. They have groups for that.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:19 am

OK Guys that's enough. I'm locking the thread, if you want to continue the discussion do it in Private Messages.