Is This A Good Method For Me To Make An AMV. Need Opinions.

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Post by eDiTiX » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:46 pm

Well when I said 20 GB on my CPU i meant HD. Didn't thought you would get technical :shock:

When you said directly you mean from VOB to lagarith? I guess I gotta read everything to find a program that can get the vob clips I want

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Post by Kariudo » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:20 pm

you can use DGindex to "index" your vobs (thus turning them into d2v files)
you can put these d2v files into an avisynth script and also get rid of the interlacing (and do other filtering)

you can then open this script in a program like VirtualDubMod, look through it , and select a little segment that you want (ie, a clip) and save that as an avi file using the lagarith codec.

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Post by Melanchthon » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:21 pm

...I've completely forgotten what I was going to write to go with that asterix. Oh well, can't have been that important.
eDiTiX wrote:First I rip small video clip sections that I want to put on my amv from my DVD to DIVX AVI format. Than I use lagarith to encode the divx avi format so I can put into vegas because divx is not acceptable in video editing.
What Scintilla said...

XviD is a lossy codec, so everything you save as XviD is going to be missing some information from the original file. Lossless codecs such as Lagarith are designed to save files without losing any information, so give them the highest-quality source you have. In your case it'll be the vobs, and not the degraded XviD encode.
However I'm not certain about what you mean when you said export it as lagarith...does vegas let u save it as a lagarith file? Sorry I'm just very very new to all this and its a bit confusing/overwhelming. When you said finally compress it with XVID...do you mean rendering or running it through vdub/mod ?
In no order:

1. Do you have the Lagarith codec installed?

2. VDM is the preferred program for compression. Editing programs can compress to XviD, but it's more common to take the lossless export and compress that.

3. Don't worry about it being overwhelming at first. It all falls into place eventually.
Btw 100 GB is HD not for AMV.
I don't understand. You have another 100GB, but it's not available for AMV-related files?
I'll try to do this but then ur saying that the file will be massive. So if its that big...then I think I'll just go MPEG 2 and then render it in the end with XVID or WMV.
The Lagarith you export from Vegas will be the single largest file you'll be dealing with, but it won't take up as much space as the clips you took from the DVDs. The average AMV will come to a couple of gigabytes, and you'll definitely need no more than 5GB (even if you're making a DVD-resolution seizure-fest). It sounds a lot if you only have 20GB to work with, but 'only' 20GB is a lot when you're dealing with the small amount of footage that actually makes it into the video.

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Post by eDiTiX » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:02 pm

Again...do you have a messenger I can talk to you in because I need help I guess I'm confused and I have lots of questions. I just need help on making a process for me to stick by.

When I said 100GB I was referring to the top but no I don't have 100GB, I think I would aim for a better cpu as a celeron processor 2.5ghz 1.5gbddr cpu doesn't stand much of a chance. Its still pretty decent but I'd really like to have a better cpu, but I also would love more to have a house to live in so at the moment I can't afford a new cpu. This is my personal thought sorry for adding...

Basically, I just want something of decent quality, not too bad, not perfect. I just want to upload on u know where tube and on here and keep it on my cpu.

I guess I just want as few process as possible, with minimum amount of memory usage compared to my 20gb cpu, and few rips or whatever as much as possible because I dont really want to spend hours and hours just to get the clips out, I just sorta want to get the clips out and put them on vegas and make my amv, the fun part. I just want a way that follows closely to all that and still gives u decent picture quality. Not really fuzzy and not way too professional like either, because I'm not show casing it or anything anyhow. So something more simple and fast so I can use more of my time to make the amv.

I'm reading the Read <a href=http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech31/>ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a> at the moment(btw I always found that abbreviation offensive haha), so please continue to help me I'm very thankful for it.

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Post by Warpwind » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:33 am

I'm not too sure if vegas or your processor can handle the .avs scripts but you could also do it this way.

Rip the vobs from the dvd's.
Use DGindex to index the vobs.
Open them up in virtualdubmod apply any cleaning filters you want (makes the files more compressable) then compress them with a lossy codec like xvid/divx.

Now lossy codecs are generally not usable in editing software like vegas but if you serve them with avisynth you can. So create an .avs script like this
AVISource("C:\mypath\myvideo.avi")
pointing to your xvid/divx .avi file.

then go to vegas and import that .avs file. Avisynth will decode the xvid/divx .avi file allowing vegas to read it.

This would enable you to get away with not clipping out individual bits you want and encoding to largarith (which would be a method with much higher quality and one I prefer) and not eating up your file space with huge episode long largarith files.

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Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:05 am

Your computer is good enough. I started editing around 2 years ago with an AMD Duron 1.2 GHz, 256 MB SD-RAM and 5 GB available HD space. Making HuffYUV clips is the way to go. With DVD-resolution you'll need around 2...3 GB of source clips for every minute of your final AMV. Of course, this works only if your AMV is well planned. With using Lagarith instead of HuffYUV you can save around 30% disk space, but it needs more processing power.

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Post by eDiTiX » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:27 am

Man I hope my new business goes well I need money to make this all sort of work out...sigh...I guess I'll give it all a test...hrm...we'll see by today as I'm expecting my full cd installation of vegas to arrive today.

Hope its not bootlegged...haha.

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