Switching Field order and Telecine

[Scintilla]

Its cut off on the left but it says stuff like
[~using c] [progressive] [out-of-pattern]
[~using c] [interlaced] [out-of-pattern]
then it says the same using [in-pattern] and even [in-pattern*]

Is this at all important or is is worthless info?

"Using c" tells you which one of the attempted field matches the plugin decided to use.

The next part tells you whether Telecide sees the frame as combed (interlaced) or not (progressive). If it detects the frame as combed and you have postprocessing enabled, it'll deinterlace the frame.

Lastly, the "pattern" bit only shows up when you set the <b>guide</b> parameter to something other than 0. For example, if you set it to find a standard NTSC 3:2 pulldown pattern, the pattern would be three progressive frames followed by two interlaced ones and repeat. So if there were four frames in a row detected as progressive, at least one of them would be marked "out-of-pattern".

And I believe the asterisk indicates that the pattern was reset on that frame. I suppose that's good for tweaking the parameter that determines how much of a discrepancy you have to have to force Telecide to reset the pattern.

By the way, all this can be found in the Decomb documentation.

[Krisqo]

Still reading through it.

But with TIVTC. Things went okay for one script aside from creating the new D2V files. However, I tried using it for another using the same information and I get this error in VDubMod:

Avisynth open failure:
TFM: d2v frame count does not match filter frame count (2461 vs 1969)!

What the hell is this? Both mpeg2source and TFM are looking at the same d2v file. The file opens with only TDecimate up, but there is still the normal interlacing. Here is that protion of the script:

SetMemoryMax(32)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\TIVTC.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\AMV_SOURCES\CARDCAPTOROP3\plat.d2v",cpu=4,upconv=true)
TFM(d2v="C:\AMV_SOURCES\CARDCAPTOROP3\plat.d2v")
#TComb()
TDecimate(mode=1)

Sorry to be such a bother.

[Shazzy]

Try

TFM(d2v="C:\AMV_SOURCES\CARDCAPTOROP3\plat.d2v", PP=0)

[Qyot27]

Avisynth open failure:
TFM: d2v frame count does not match filter frame count (2461 vs 1969)!

What the hell is this? Both mpeg2source and TFM are looking at the same d2v file. The file opens with only TDecimate up, but there is still the normal interlacing. Here is that protion of the script:

SetMemoryMax(32)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\TIVTC.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\AMV_SOURCES\CARDCAPTOROP3\plat.d2v",cpu=4,upconv=true)
TFM(d2v="C:\AMV_SOURCES\CARDCAPTOROP3\plat.d2v")
#TComb()
TDecimate(mode=1)

Sorry to be such a bother.

I honestly can't say, but the difference between 2461 and 1969 is the difference between a 29.97 and 23.976 fps stream, so it does have something to do with TDecimate. Does it throw the error when TComb is uncommented, or is that just in there as an aside? TComb should actually be placed before TFM, if that would help any.

My typical configuration of TFM is similar to this (granted, this was on RahXephon, which is nicely encoded, but it works amazingly well on other sources also):

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MPEG2Source("rah1_1.d2v", ipp=true, cpu=4)
TFM(order=-1,mode=5,PP=7,field=-1,slow=2)

It occasionally will result in odd frames like this:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/ ... haruhi.png

But as that picture shows, TIsophote can do a decent job of helping to mask it. (yes, I know the example picture is not of RahXephon, but it was those TFM settings I listed above + TDecimate on it's defaults)

[Shazzy]

By the way, the specific problem is that TFM requires the frame info from the d2v to match the actual input frame count.

[Krisqo]

Okay, I tried everything Qyot27 and Shazzy said and it works now, even with TComb commented so I don't know. I'll keep playing and hoping that it keeps working.