Windows Movie Maker or AE?

[danielwang]

Hello,

I've come across a slight dilemma here, and I have several choices.
1. Edit with AE only
I've heard it's difficult to do raw editing with AE, but is is feasible to learn it without time overhead?
2. Edit with WMM
... any why do peoples bash the Windows Movie Maker again?
3. Obtain Premiere or other
I can obtain premiere for the price of 25,00$ (twenty five USD), though that is a considerable sum to me. Is it worth it to have to use/learn two softwares though?

I apologize is this post is mundane and self-serving, but I really don't want to end up with software that either doesn't work well for it's purpose or is not stable .


Adobe, as usual, is sending me adverts in the postal for their promos. The latest schema I've seen: "Adobe Video Collection, the Biggest blockbuster at Matinee Prices". What the heck? They expect us to buy all that software at once.

[Tab.]

are you blachmonarch

[Zarxrax]

AE is not a video editor.
It's stupid to edit a normal video in it.

[post-it]

actually neither is a Video Editer - no even Primiere nor AiST make such a program!

In real life, you have a Video Player and two U-matic VCR's with one controller
plus a Gen-Lock timer to syncronize the VCR's for Video Framing.

If you think about what Studio's use, then the answer is quite obvious:
1) you need a minimum of 3 Video Lines and 3 Audio Tracks.
2) you need something to monitor what is being done.
3) you need to see all 3 Video lines live and the resolting end-Video.

The way I have mine set up may scare some people, but it is quite effective:

on top: the big wide 19:8 main screen ( the resolting end-Video )

below that top screen are:
Left Screen is line #1
Middle Screen is line #2
Right Screen is #3

and below those three:
the Main Program being run ( the editor program. )

- its not that hard of a trick to use 5 monitors off of 1 computer,
and the resolts are ~fairly decent~

AiST gives you the capability of using the program on multi-screen platforms
and that is why I love it ^^

AiST Programs I currently have running are:
MediaMania 2.2 ( E-bay $25.00 )
and
MovieDV 3.0 ( E-bay $50.00 )
These two programs, along with Virtual Dub, are all I like to use.

There's really not a whole heck of a lot that I can not do with this combination.

? Primiere ? . . T_T . . I'd need a 10 foot Monitor to do less that I can now T_T

8) it may be overkill, and it wasn't cheep, but considering that I love Video's
- it was worth the $1,100.00 I have invested into it. ( at 44 years old, I'm rich )

T_T and if you belive that, man - have I got a watch to sell you ^^;;;;

[danielwang]

actually neither is a Video Editer - no even Primiere nor AiST make such a program!

1) Studios don't use VCRs. However, some do have that type of setup.

2) That's what I'm using now... however it is cumbersome to repeat the steps of, after source rip of entire DVD, seek, isolate, crop, and drag tiny 1-second fieces ov video into AE.

It's less than 1 month into my next AMV and I'm already feeling the frustration...

[post-it]

hmmm
my first set-up was back in 1994 with a program called Asymetrix Video Producer 3.0.

At that time, Windows 3.11 was king and Win 95 was not set to be released for another 4 months.
It has 2 Video and 2 Audio lines but fading is all it can do from either line.

my next editor came with the Mjpg Card - MovieLine & Primiere 4.0 LE

after that, I hit the Jack-Pot by an un-heard-of company called IMSI
Coral Lumiere Suite 2.0 ( still use this one - when I have the time )
along with Asymetrix Video Producer 4.0 for Win95

AiST released a `really really strange concept that I fell in love with:
MediaMania 2.2 TV Pro
- Now, this one . . needs some explaining to understand what it does.
1) its a 99 level Animation maker that accepts Video as a Picture.
( you can rotate it, flip it, - oh, did I forget to mention . . in ANY direction? )
(( make a Path fir pictures to follow, change the size and focal lenths and angles ))
2) make 3D "anything" and import almost anything from AutoCAD and such.
3) change the frame rates, at any time, and it will match the others being used
even if they are different! ( 4 fps layer 1 ) + ( 30 fps layer 2 ) + ( 24 fps layer 16 )
and have it Render at whatever frame rate you want your Video to play it back.

next was Primiere 5.1 - basically useless, but I still have it.

my next 4 were errors to get, but they were easy to use:
MGI VideoWave II & III
Ulead Studio 3 & 4

They almost got it right when Magix released its Office Studio 1.0
- this is a handy little bugger ^^ and its not that out of date!

AiST MovieDV 3.0
- this is a nice combination of
MediaMania 2.2 TV Pro
IMSI Coral Lumiere Suite 2.0 and
Magix Office Studio 1.0
- but it takes a little bit of knowing the other 3 first to grasp how to use MovieDV.

my next biggest mistake was MGI's CineMatic
T_T - Eeeeee-gad's; what a useless design!

Primere 6.0 and 6.5 . . baught it, used it, returned it - both within 1 week!

I guess any of these are ok~
- however, I'm sold on AiST MovieDV 3.0 . . I've had the best, but like the rest.

[moonslayer]

2. Edit with WMM
... any why do peoples bash the Windows Movie Maker again?

If you don't mind one resolution, (320x240) and one special effect (cross fade ) then go ahead and use it. It's designed for simplicity that's its only good feture. Premiere isn't that hard though.

[turboneko]

I can obtain premiere for the price of 25,00$ (twenty five USD), though that is a considerable sum to me. Is it worth it to have to use/learn two softwares though?

Do yourself a favor and buy it: if you were able to learn AE the learning curve for Premiere will be much smoother.

AE was never intended to do frame-accurate video editing: time your video in Premiere and do as much editing as you can in there THEN, if you really need it, put AE in the equation and do all the manipulations that you can't do in Premiere.

My .02$