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Play with fire and you'll get burned

Postby Fay-Sa » Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:48 pm

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Contest Information: tied with my other video "Falling"
for "Fan's Choice" at Ikasucon 2007 AMV contest

Note: this video has nothing to do with the anime Card Captor Sakura, I just made the pomo pic as one that is for both the Feed the Fire video and the Clow's Collection muilt-editor project.

Glad to have this video up, enjoy^^

Edit: I'm going to re-upload it after I fix the flitering and the ratio. I went back and checked my mistake and I should have it fixed soon.

Edit: FIXED!
Last edited by Fay-Sa on Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:50 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Postby angelx03 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:38 pm

Two gripes I had with this video. First the video quality looks WAY overfiltered, and second is that I was a little bothered about it being fullscreened considering it was originally widescreen.

Other than that, it was pretty smoken'! :o
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Postby OropherZero » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:45 pm

aspect ratio wrong, way overfiltered...over blended and contrast too high, I'd honestly rather see no use of avs and even interlacing (ie straight from dvd) than this final product =\ (if you were using raws then there is no need to apply more filters to it) also I didn't feel the footage connected enough with the music, you used faster action scenes where I believe that the song is of a slower momentum. yeah some scenes felt out of place/randomised/didn't add to the part of the song and well... that lack of connection got to me.

Anyway you score extra points for using Shakugan no Shana so keep up the work ;)
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Postby CodeZTM » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:11 pm

Ah! miss sakura san, I've been waiting for this ever since you told me you were going to release it! I have to agree with the others above me, but it's still amazing, and the segment in Clow's Collection is beautiful. I was amazed you picked it up and finished it so quickly! Anyway, you know my opinion on this!

4.00/5.00 :wink: (Points off for Aspect Ratio & Filtering)
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Postby Fay-Sa » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:20 pm

thanks code, yea I know it looks overfliterd but I like colors when they are bright and loud, that's just me ^^; and it just looked way to dull before hand, also when I saw this anime it was in fullscreen. I'm still working with fliters so I should be better with them in the next video. I thought I got the aspect ratio right(looks back) ah it's still confusing@.@

But as long as the video enjoyable then to me it's all good and that's all I care about. I'm still learning so I'll get better with the footage flitering...hopefuly.... I also hope this leaves an good impression for the mep.

Maybe I'll re-upload it one day with a few teaks^^
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Postby JaddziaDax » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:49 pm

/me gets?
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Postby Emong » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:39 am

New stuff from miss sakura-san!

Coolness 8-)

/gets

EDIT: I was so excited but no download links :cry:
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Postby Fay-Sa » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:49 am

Emong wrote:New stuff from miss sakura-san!

Coolness 8-)

/gets

EDIT: I was so excited but no download links :cry:


Well the link back up^^, sorry for the wait, and I fixed the aspect ratio & filtering
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Postby Emong » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:12 am

Yesh!

EDIT:
That had a nice original touch in it. With this alternative song and all. Once again you have captured it very nicely. I didn't know what the hell was going on in that video, but it's not a huge problem, since the mood sync was pretty nice. Although, it would be great if the character was shown very in-depth for a change in a character profile video~

I'm becoming more and more used to your style of lyrical syncing. And I liked that on this video, even if I often prefer beat-sync. Sometimes there were cuts I didn't feel were properly placed, but that wasn't a big problem since the overall flow was very.. well.. flowy. Which means good :up:

Anyway, maybe I should watch it more times before I can actually say anything about it, but I felt your story-telling was more random than in your last two videos. Don't get me erong though. Mood sync was very appropriate, but often mood sync alone is too disposable for the video to be actually "great".. I liked your video, but not a lot =) Nice work!

Oh yeah, I felt it was still over-filtered (I can't compare to the previous version though, because I haven't seen it) but propably better than unfiltered footage anyway~ Expect an op from me, but don't count on it ;) Sometimes I just can't bring myself to write another essay~
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Postby CrackTheSky » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:54 pm

I downloaded the fixed version, and holy crap this is overfiltered. I mean, WAY overfiltered. I'd guess that you didn't need any filtering at all (that's okay to do sometimes), because this is just BAD. There's also a hefty dose of macroblocking throughout the video...I don't know what you did, but the quality of this video is just :down:

That aside, I simply loved this video :) The flow was excellent...quite surprising given the inconsistencies I felt were present in Falling. I mean, the scene selection and actual cutting in this video was nothing short of brilliant, and this was COMPLETELY unexpected. I'm going to have to watch it a few more times to really grasp your concept (I was too entranced with the way the scenes fit the music so well), but my initial impression of this is that you've far exceeded what I expected and I really hope I get to see more cool stuff like this from you in the future.

Also, those AE sequences kick ass :D

4/5 :up: (Would go higher, but the quality is honestly bad enough that it's distracting)
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Postby CodeZTM » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:04 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:I downloaded the fixed version, and holy crap this is overfiltered. I mean, WAY overfiltered. I'd guess that you didn't need any filtering at all (that's okay to do sometimes), because this is just BAD. There's also a hefty dose of macroblocking throughout the video...I don't know what you did, but the quality of this video is just :down:

That aside, I simply loved this video :) The flow was excellent...quite surprising given the inconsistencies I felt were present in Falling. I mean, the scene selection and actual cutting in this video was nothing short of brilliant, and this was COMPLETELY unexpected. I'm going to have to watch it a few more times to really grasp your concept (I was too entranced with the way the scenes fit the music so well), but my initial impression of this is that you've far exceeded what I expected and I really hope I get to see more cool stuff like this from you in the future.

Also, those AE sequences kick ass :D

4/5 :up: (Would go higher, but the quality is honestly bad enough that it's distracting)



And on that high note, please stand by for shameless Clow's Collection self promoting (it will be available late November, Early December).
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Postby ScorpionP » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:47 pm

This was pretty good actually, but I got to agree with others about the quality...

Overall, nice job :up:
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Postby Fay-Sa » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:08 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:I downloaded the fixed version, and holy crap this is overfiltered. I mean, WAY overfiltered. I'd guess that you didn't need any filtering at all (that's okay to do sometimes), because this is just BAD. There's also a hefty dose of macroblocking throughout the video...I don't know what you did, but the quality of this video is just :down:

That aside, I simply loved this video :) The flow was excellent...quite surprising given the inconsistencies I felt were present in Falling. I mean, the scene selection and actual cutting in this video was nothing short of brilliant, and this was COMPLETELY unexpected. I'm going to have to watch it a few more times to really grasp your concept (I was too entranced with the way the scenes fit the music so well), but my initial impression of this is that you've far exceeded what I expected and I really hope I get to see more cool stuff like this from you in the future.

Also, those AE sequences kick ass :D

4/5 :up: (Would go higher, but the quality is honestly bad enough that it's distracting)


I'm sorry about the QL, I knew there was macroblocking but to me it doesn't look heavy, if anything it looks dull as hell color wise. I just can't seem to get any better with footage QL and it's upsetting that I can't seem to get it :( and before anyone says anything yes I'v read the guide.

However I'm glad that you like the video and that it past your expections. And yes I hope you'll continue to watch my vids to come and I promies that I'll get better with the vid ql.

Also does AE mean After Effects? I don't have AE. I only have Ulead programs.
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Postby CrackTheSky » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:47 pm

miss sakura-san wrote:Also does AE mean After Effects? I don't have AE. I only have Ulead programs.

Yeah...I was referring to the part where all the scenes are floating around in the background. I don't have the video on this computer at the moment to give you an exact timecode, but it happened near the end.
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Postby Fay-Sa » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:11 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:Yeah...I was referring to the part where all the scenes are floating around in the background. I don't have the video on this computer at the moment to give you an exact timecode, but it happened near the end.


"k, I thought you were talking about that part. Yea I don't have AE but I will be using it soon when I start school next month. Well atleast you thought they were kick ass :P

Anyway I'm going to try agian to see if I can get this not to look so overflitered, I still have the huffy's and everything. Though something tells me it's not going to look much better :(
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