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Postby Zero Link » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:08 pm

Lol, why are you in such a rush to run a mep? They aren't going anywhere so just try to join some before you create one. Or at least study how others will do their meps. You have to remember this isn't you tube.. This is the org.. where amvs are actually what we're all about, where the big fish make big moves.. And you aren't a big fish just yet. <----- :?

So what I would do is join some meps, sharpen up my skills(try not to use effects).. *Maybe you should look at my tutorial on you tube*, study how meps work (they have pinned topics giving you tips), then try and creating a mep. Oh and one song? Thats not going to be much of a mep.. Either you're going to play one song on that mep and show countless of fights in about 30seconds (since you have soo many naruto episodes), or you're going to play that song over and over and over again until people get sick and tired of it. Maybe you should use more songs than just one. Try creating a mix and then it up.. THEN come back and make your mep.
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Postby cycangfx » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:14 pm

SSJ3 Son Jp wrote:Lol, why are you in such a rush to run a mep? They aren't going anywhere so just try to join some before you create one. Or at least study how others will do their meps. You have to remember this isn't you tube.. This is the org.. where amvs are actually what we're all about, where the big fish make big moves.. And you aren't a big fish just yet. <----- :?

So what I would do is join some meps, sharpen up my skills(try not to use effects).. *Maybe you should look at my tutorial on you tube*, study how meps work (they have pinned topics giving you tips), then try and creating a mep. Oh and one song? Thats not going to be much of a mep.. Either you're going to play one song on that mep and show countless of fights in about 30seconds (since you have soo many naruto episodes), or you're going to play that song over and over and over again until people get sick and tired of it. Maybe you should use more songs than just one. Try creating a mix and then it up.. THEN come back and make your mep.


But what if the time I sharpen my skills someone already does this? Then I would be 'copying' their idea....
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Postby Krisqo » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:17 pm

cycangfx wrote:
But what if the time I sharpen my skills someone already does this? Then I would be 'copying' their idea....


I SERIOUSLY don't think anyone else is gonna be making a Naruto only MEP anytime soon.
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Postby kikai_saigono » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:17 pm

(trying to help, not spam your thread, so listen up.)
i don't think somebody will have already done Naruto to that particular Green Day song. and if by some really odd chance it does happen, you can always think up new ideas. ;) Maybe also think about in the meantime how you can improve on this particular idea.

Really, take things slow. Running a mep is harder than it looks. You need to have specs like framerate and whatnot. I ran a simple birthday mep that had only four other creators and it wore me out. Just learn the tricks of the trade. =]
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Postby Zero Link » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:20 pm

cycangfx wrote:
SSJ3 Son Jp wrote:Lol, why are you in such a rush to run a mep? They aren't going anywhere so just try to join some before you create one. Or at least study how others will do their meps. You have to remember this isn't you tube.. This is the org.. where amvs are actually what we're all about, where the big fish make big moves.. And you aren't a big fish just yet. <----- :?

So what I would do is join some meps, sharpen up my skills(try not to use effects).. *Maybe you should look at my tutorial on you tube*, study how meps work (they have pinned topics giving you tips), then try and creating a mep. Oh and one song? Thats not going to be much of a mep.. Either you're going to play one song on that mep and show countless of fights in about 30seconds (since you have soo many naruto episodes), or you're going to play that song over and over and over again until people get sick and tired of it. Maybe you should use more songs than just one. Try creating a mix and then it up.. THEN come back and make your mep.


But what if the time I sharpen my skills someone already does this? Then I would be 'copying' their idea....

Oh, so this is why you're rushing. Its not like you haven't copied ideas before. **looks at your intrest gauge title*. Nah, but seriously.. If they have then just make another one with a different artist or anime. But, if you TRUELY want to do this mep because you're affraid someone might take your idea.. Then do it I guess but prepare to make plenty of updates and make it a multi-song mep. I would ask the mods to delete this topic due to all this spam and make another topic, but you should get it right on the next topic.
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Postby cycangfx » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:21 pm

kikai_saigono wrote:(trying to help, not spam your thread, so listen up.)
i don't think somebody will have already done Naruto to that particular Green Day song. and if by some really odd chance it does happen, you can always think up new ideas. ;) Maybe also think about in the meantime how you can improve on this particular idea.

Really, take things slow. Running a mep is harder than it looks. You need to have specs like framerate and whatnot. I ran a simple birthday mep that had only four other creators and it wore me out. Just learn the tricks of the trade. =]


Fine I'll take all your guys words and close this mep and work on my skills...
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Postby SilversLightning » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:34 pm

I wasn't trying to cause a problem though...it's just that Naruto has been done to death. If you pick some other anime it would work better most probably...especially if the anime only has 26 or less episodes
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Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:35 pm

Hate to throw a monkey wrench in things, but there were a number of comments in this thread that kind of irritated me.

BTW- No windows movie maker or other editing program that is bad like WMM,


The editor makes the video, not the fucking editing program. I'm getting incredibly sick of people making the assumption that WMM is a bad program. It is not. It just so happens that since it's free and available that many, many more editors use it. That, of course, leads to a higher percentage of them making bad videos, since newbies tend to be the ones using that program. Similarly, Premiere and the like are not good programs by nature alone. It is also the editor in this case that makes the video. Since several of them require a good deal of money for purchase, the tendency is for more experienced people to use the higher level programs. Therefore, you get less newbies and less bad videos.

Moral of the story: don't ever judge a program. The higher level ones may have more capabilities, but in the hands of an inexperienced editor, they're useless.

sorry but not too many people here like Naruto :/


*insert Lex Luthor WRONG! here* Two words: Super Search. Clearly, this anime is very well liked for there to be so many videos on the site. And don't try to give me crap about the more experienced editors not liking it either, because I can give you three videos right off of the top of my head that were made by said people and that used Naruto.

I don't like Naruto myself, but that was just an out and out false statement.

plus it's Naruto, and just to be honest (completely honest) not as many people would watch it.


Again, while I would not watch this video, please refer to the above paragraph for my reasoning on why it could still do very well. Granted, the use of one song may take away from the viewing audience, but I have seen plenty of single-song, shorter MEPs that were quite successful.

you still have no hosting,


Oh, so this constitutes being able to head a MEP, eh? Why didn't you tell me before!? I would have stopped Project FMV ages ago! :roll:

Seriously. All you need is hardware, software, media, and a group of editors to pull off a MEP. Hosting is convenient, but it doesn't even factor in.

On that note, I've noticed that the op decided to close the MEP. Long story short, quite berating people with ungrounded facts. You didn't need to bash his idea. You all could have simply reiterated that he was inexperienced yet, and his idea would surely still be waiting for him when he learned what he needed to.

Now, I'd appreciate it if you didn't all go ahead and start taking potshots at me. : /


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Postby NS » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:16 pm

Cycan, seriously. You need to just wait some time and frankly... Become more competent and get mroe experience before trying to make an MEP.
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Postby Fuze » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:38 pm

*starts singing* So what if I lost everything? Would you want me if I was a failure?
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Postby cycangfx » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:52 pm

mod delete this, this is becoming a spam thread for n00bs
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Postby Turankusu » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:01 pm

A wise person once said...

Unlimited Rice wrote:If it's one thing I never liked, it was the addition of the Multi-Editor Project forums. From the start, I personally thought it was a bad idea. Sure, it edges on more MEPs because it's fun to be collaborating with other editors on one big project.

I guess in the end, it's more my problem than the AMVorg's. Before the MEP forums came up, I used to actually look forward to MEPs coming out because 1. They were so few, and 2. they were actually good.. Now MEPs are popping left and right, only 1 out of 10 are actually really good, 2 or 3 are average, and the rest are shit.

One song MEPs:
The only one I really looked forward to was the Children Project. Jeez, I remember it being so awesome, I still think so, too. It's alot better and well organized beyond 90% of the MEPs in the forums. Another example of a one song mep would be Alternate Dimensions(Can't wait for the 2nd one to come out :) )

Premixed MEPs:
Stuff like Reflections of Style have (for the most part) been extremely solid. It's been some of the best organized projects out there. Ayumix is also a very very excellent example of this, and the Final Fantasy VI Project is definitely something, even if it's not flashy.

AMV Hell type:
Now, the AMV Hell, 2, and 3,(I never saw 0) are all good, but I'm gonna clunk in like.. Christian Rock Project and stuff in here.. Basically, anything where people can just choose any song and anime they want and only edit to a portion(or whole) to a song are pretty much AMV Hell-types from what I can see. The only good ones I can think of in this category are.... obviously AMV Hell, 2, and 3. Christian Rock Project, DDR Projects, NES, RVG, and VG3. The rest are average and most are crap.

Band Mep:
You guys know what these are. MEPs with tracks to a certain band. Almost every single one is either shit or average. What really sucks, is that the best band MEP I've seen... never got finished... it was trashed... or in the "List of Known Projects" thread says, it's "In Limbo." That's right, I'm talking about the Linkin Park: Revolution project. As a personal preference, I liked it because it was premixed.. because no matter what people say about getting to pick your own part in the songs(because people would rather edit a certain part than others), I know the project overall would be better if there was a mix made before hand.
I mean, come on, it's very clear that if you take a band and make it into an MEP, that if you mix it yourself, the whole thing would meld together a lot lot better than if people were just choosing their own segments to the songs.
Anyways, back to the Linkin Park MEP. If that thing actually finished, it could've been one of the best MEPs out there. There were so many really really good tracks, and to name a few on the top of my head: Dacoolgohan, Niotex, Nostromo, and Superfusion all had really really freakin awesome tracks, and I thought it was a waste that this one had to drop because it would have definitely been up there with ROS in terms of sticking out.
An example of a good band mep that actually finished(that I can think of right now) was probably the Tool project, though I really only remember like the first few and last few tracks, those were really good.


Again, I gotta say, this is my own personal tick. I don't mind people making their own MEPs left and right, I just miss the days when most MEPs were actually fresh. Now I gotta deal with the trash and try to pick through to find the good ones.


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