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Postby Scintilla » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:47 pm

I should add that dot crawl is notorious for being difficult to remove (see <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechbeta/avspostqual.html#other">here</a> for more), and depending on your source, it can be downright impossible if you've already IVTCed your footage. If it's just on the borders of the image, like the part you complained about, then slight cropping is the way to go.

I should also add that your cropping doesn't necessarily have to bring the width to a multiple of 16, as long as the width is a multiple of 16 <I>at the end of the filter chain</i> (throw in a resizer if you have to).
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Postby OzzieAlThor79 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Scintilla wrote:I should add that dot crawl is notorious for being difficult to remove (see <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/avspostqual.html#other">here</a> for more), and depending on your source, it can be downright impossible if you've already IVTCed your footage. If it's just on the borders of the image, like the part you complained about, then slight cropping is the way to go.

I should also add that your cropping doesn't necessarily have to bring the width to a multiple of 16, as long as the width is a multiple of 16 <I>at the end of the filter chain</i> (throw in a resizer if you have to).


A. Yes, I know his name too. :mrgreen:

B. Yes, I went in and had scripts, deinterlaced and made pretty (as best as my noobish self can at this point that is) my footage. I also resized my footage as per your studios instuctions (http://www.aquilinestudios.org/wmm2guide.html FTW!) for working with WMM. I took all the series and also resized all the footag to what was said in that guide too. (LanczosResize(640,480))

Was that right?

C. If that WAS right, when I put my finished AVI (again, this was just a bunch of clips from the different shows I through together just to test for this kind of issue) into VDM to get my massive Huffy file, do I need to figure out a new script and add the resize to that as well so I can get a decent looking file?

D. Thanks. I apprciate the help! :up:
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Postby OzzieAlThor79 » Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:22 pm

OzzieAlThor79 wrote:
A. Yes, I know his name too. :mrgreen:

B. Yes, I went in and had scripts, deinterlaced and made pretty (as best as my noobish self can at this point that is) my footage. I also resized my footage as per your studios instuctions (http://www.aquilinestudios.org/wmm2guide.html FTW!) for working with WMM. I took all the series and also resized all the footag to what was said in that guide too. (LanczosResize(640,480))

Was that right?

C. If that WAS right, when I put my finished AVI (again, this was just a bunch of clips from the different shows I through together just to test for this kind of issue) into VDM to get my massive Huffy file, do I need to figure out a new script and add the resize to that as well so I can get a decent looking file?

D. Thanks. I apprciate the help! :up:


I'm assuming these questions are so noobish and obvious they don't even deserve an answer...
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Postby Shazzy » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:41 pm

OzzieAlThor79 wrote:
I'm assuming these questions are so noobish and obvious they don't even deserve an answer...


Frankly, I have no idea what you're asking. Reword the question for clarity?
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Postby OzzieAlThor79 » Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:28 pm

1. I resized my AVi's and already deinterlaced and such when I was getting my clips. Was that right?

2. If that WAS right, when I put my finished product (a DV-AVI produced by Windows Movie Maker) into VDM to get my massive Huffy file, do I need to figure out a new script and add the resize to that as well so I can get a decent looking file? I'd prefer to not have to make a WMV if I don't have too.
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Postby Shazzy » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:23 pm

1. Make d2vs of your VOBS
2. Write an AviSynth script that does the following to that d2v:
a) resizes
b) deinterlaces
c) any other visual cleanup
3. Import script into VDM
4. Export from VDM as Huffy

There shouldn't be some weird in-between step using Windows Movie Maker. You need to convert to Huffy before you touch your editing program.
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Postby Scintilla » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:57 pm

Shazzy wrote:1. Make d2vs of your VOBS
2. Write an AviSynth script that does the following to that d2v:
a) resizes
b) deinterlaces
c) any other visual cleanup
3. Import script into VDM
4. Export from VDM as Huffy

There shouldn't be some weird in-between step using Windows Movie Maker. You need to convert to Huffy before you touch your editing program.

If I'm reading him correctly, Ozzie's "weird in-between step" is actually editing the AMV.

Then exporting DV from WMM, then converting THAT to HuffYUV in VDM, and so on.
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Postby Shazzy » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:55 pm

Ozzie, why are you converting to huffy after you export your finished video?
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Postby Shazzy » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:56 pm

Okay, sorry, brain is not working today.

You want to edit your video in WMM.
You don't want a WMV as your final export, you want to create an AVI in VDM, is that it?
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Postby OzzieAlThor79 » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:45 pm

1. Make d2vs of your VOBS Done
2. Write an AviSynth script that does the following to that d2v:
a) resizes Done
b) deinterlaces Done
c) any other visual cleanup Done
3. Import script into VDM Done
4. Export from VDM as Huffy Done

I'm with ya so far.

I Imported my Huffy AVI's into WMM.

They work FINE.

I took a random selection of said clips and threw them into WMM. I wanted to see if everything would process correctly for me before I started heavy duty editing.

I have run into 2 issues:

1. The right hand side of some of my Utena clips have the graphic issues in the pictures i provided a few posts back.

2. I make the project into a 1.21 GB AVI file and it's like I never deinterlaced anything. (Conversly, if I make it a WMV using Scintilla's codec thingy for WMM, it looks much better.)

When it comes to issue #1: I asked if throwing this video back into VDM and croping it off ever so slightly might be the way to go. The answer I got was "probably". My next question was "What should I make my freshly cropped video in VDM?" Meaning: Should I export it(being my freshly cropped video) again as a HuffyAVI File or what?

Then I had issue #2. So I have now been asking, do I need to rerun a script that will do the cropping from issue #1 and the deinterlacing from Issue#2?

Or should I just give up and make it a WMV?
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