I think I've found the FFXII fmvs...

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Postby Arkada » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:40 am

Can someone check out this extractor out for me?
http://videoff7.free.fr/ffxii2mov_1.01.zip

Its English, but it doesn't work with my Collector's edition of FFXII. I want to know if it works with the normal edition.
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Postby RIPmyprsoul » Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:29 pm

Arkada wrote:Can someone check out this extractor out for me?
http://videoff7.free.fr/ffxii2mov_1.01.zip

Its English, but it doesn't work with my Collector's edition of FFXII. I want to know if it works with the normal edition.


I have the Collector's Edition too because they ran out of normal editions...but it should work...why doesn't it work!?!?!?
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Postby sayde » Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:17 pm

Arkada, congrats. what you have found is an extractor that works properly for the Japanese version. I just tested it myself and works perfectly. I was actually trying to find this version of the extractor awhile back, but the one and only link I came across was down. So great job for finding it for me. I appreciate it.

Now before I say anything else, I must admit that I too own the special edition of this game and haven't tried this with the normal version. So with that in mind, I stand wide open for correction with anything I state below.

Unfortnately, as I've stated before, this only appears to be a translated version of the program that didn't work well in the first place. Anyways, I tried testing it with this english version, but I didn't have any success either. Apparently, the program factors in the DVD's exact file size to determine whether or not or not, the right DVD is being scanned. And since the english version of FFXII is roughly a few mb larger than the japanese version, the program refuses to scan the dvd. (hence why I get the "wrong disk" error.)

There is a potential solution though to at least trick the program into thinking it's scanning the japanese version.

Figure out the exact difference in the file sizes of each game down to the last byte just to be on the safe side.
Then make an iso image of the game.
Using a hex editor, edit out the difference in mb in the english version, then export it.
Load the editted iso image into a program called Daemon tools and have ffxiimov scan it. If done correctly, the program should start to extract stuff from the english version.

The hard part is actually trying to figure out where exactly to edit out the several mb of extra data between the english and japanese versions. Because otherwise, ffxiimov won't extract the fmv's correctly.

Anyways, that's about it. This is a big step in the right direction. Hopefully someone with the normal version can and tell us whether this program works for it or not. Or maybe someone with the right skills can use this program to make an extractor that actually works properly for the english version.

btw, here's the exact file sizes of each version in bytes
English version:
4,066,508,800

Japanese version:
4,032,266,240
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Postby sayde » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:55 pm

hey guys. I just contacted the author of the english version to ffxii2mov. Here's what he had to say:

Hey Sayde,
I just resshacked the japanese ffxii2mov to make it dispay english language but have no knowledge whatsoever of the code that makes it work, and so cannot make a version for FFXII USA version.
The only person that could help is the Japanese author of the app, Fao, whom you can contact here :
http://www.project-fao.org/
[ webmaster@project-fao.org ]
Later,

Alcahest


So it looks like I was right all along and it won't work for the english version. At least not intially. That's all for now guys.
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Postby Pwolf » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:31 pm

yea, i tried contacting Fao about it, but no responce :\

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Postby Arkada » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:06 am

I tried the Hex Editor method with no luck on my end.

But luckily for me I got a hold of the Jap Version so now it works fine.

I'm glad I could help
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Postby xoverburnx » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:10 am

I have about 10 saves near the longer cut scene and FMV sequences for FFXii , if there is a demand for FMV's I can simply record them.
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Postby Pwolf » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:17 am

xoverburnx wrote:I have about 10 saves near the longer cut scene and FMV sequences for FFXii , if there is a demand for FMV's I can simply record them.


yea, i could do that too, but i would like to get the raw video off the disk :P


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Postby sayde » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:50 am

I've actually started my own little project. I'm playing through the game again trying to record just the audio from all the fmvs with any kind of english vocal dialogue. Then I'll just edit the recorded wav files and then multiplex them back to the video stream to create my own .pss files. It's about time someone took the initiative and got the english version of the fmvs one way or another. The sound quality of the recorded footage actually seems just fine even though it may not have been ripped from the dvd itself. So it really should'nt matter once it's all said and done.
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Postby sayde » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:52 am

btw, I meant I'd multiplex the recorded audio from the english version of the game back to the video streams to the japanese version. Since SE neglected to resynch the mouth movements to the english audio, it'll all be the same once I'm done.
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Postby xoverburnx » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:17 pm

The majority of that game's awesome footage takes place outside of FMVs. Just a heads up.
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Postby RIPmyprsoul » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:23 pm

sayde, wouldn't it be better if you extracted the audio from the us version instead of record it? but everyone already knows that its already really hard to extract the video from it... :roll: anyway we also can't extract the cutscenes outside of FMVs easily too except for some in Kingdom Hearts 2
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Postby sayde » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:10 pm

xoverburnx wrote:The majority of that game's awesome footage takes place outside of FMVs. Just a heads up.


To each his own I suppose. I personally didn't find any cut scenes at all in the game to be that entertaning to watch. I also didn't like a lot of the fmv's as well to be honest. About the only ones I enjoyed were fran and balthier's intro along with the fmv after that in which they meet up w/ vaan. But I suppose this is all really due to the fact that I didn't particularly care for the game much in general. So take my opinion w/ a grain of salt. I really didn't like the game which more than likely is the direct reason I could'nt bring myself to enjoy most of the cut scenes/fmv's.

But despite all that, I'm sure even you have to admit that the fmv's look so much prettier compared to the cut scenes, right?

RIPmyprsoul wrote:sayde, wouldn't it be better if you extracted the audio from the us version instead of record it? but everyone already knows that its already really hard to extract the video from it... :roll: anyway we also can't extract the cutscenes outside of FMVs easily too except for some in Kingdom Hearts 2


heh
If you can find a way to extract the audio from the fmvs in the us version of FFXII, then please, be my guest. In fact, I would be more than delighted to know how to extract the audio myself if you ever happen figure it out. I have done all the searching I'm going to do with both nova extractor and winhex. I suppose if there was one chance of finidng the audio to the fmv's, it would be with Cube Media player. But I also dont have the time to scan an entire iso of FFXII with cube media player since it takes up way too much of my computers process power. Basically using cube media player renders my pc unusable for as long as it's scanning. I know for a fact, the program can find a LOT of dialogue though. But other than that, I won't guarantee anything. And I'm not about to take the risk of personally wasting an entire day w/ my pc to find out. I'll leave that to someone else.

Besides, capturing the audio myself is both more time effective and guaranteed. Plus the audio quality sounds just fine. I've compared the audio files I recorded to the atrac3 compressed wav files from the japanese version of the fmvs and to be honest, mine sounded just as clear as the direct rips IMO. I had headphones on, so I don't know for sure if that's a better way or worse way of telling. *shrugs shoulders* The only real difference I noticed were that my recorded wav files were louder...(and in english obviously).

This next part it off topic, but
with regards to KH2, the only cut scenes I've notice that can be ripped are those that show flashbacks to KH1/CoM (since they utilized a completely different engine) and the 1000 heartless battle. I guess animating that many enemies all at once is way too much for the ps2 to handle in real time, so I guess they had no choice but to save it as an m2v stream instead.

This post went on a lot longer than I initially expected it too. So I'll end this here for now.
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Postby RIPmyprsoul » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:55 am

sayde wrote:
xoverburnx wrote:The majority of that game's awesome footage takes place outside of FMVs. Just a heads up.


To each his own I suppose. I personally didn't find any cut scenes at all in the game to be that entertaning to watch. I also didn't like a lot of the fmv's as well to be honest. About the only ones I enjoyed were fran and balthier's intro along with the fmv after that in which they meet up w/ vaan. But I suppose this is all really due to the fact that I didn't particularly care for the game much in general. So take my opinion w/ a grain of salt. I really didn't like the game which more than likely is the direct reason I could'nt bring myself to enjoy most of the cut scenes/fmv's.

But despite all that, I'm sure even you have to admit that the fmv's look so much prettier compared to the cut scenes, right?

RIPmyprsoul wrote:sayde, wouldn't it be better if you extracted the audio from the us version instead of record it? but everyone already knows that its already really hard to extract the video from it... :roll: anyway we also can't extract the cutscenes outside of FMVs easily too except for some in Kingdom Hearts 2


heh
If you can find a way to extract the audio from the fmvs in the us version of FFXII, then please, be my guest. In fact, I would be more than delighted to know how to extract the audio myself if you ever happen figure it out. I have done all the searching I'm going to do with both nova extractor and winhex. I suppose if there was one chance of finidng the audio to the fmv's, it would be with Cube Media player. But I also dont have the time to scan an entire iso of FFXII with cube media player since it takes up way too much of my computers process power. Basically using cube media player renders my pc unusable for as long as it's scanning. I know for a fact, the program can find a LOT of dialogue though. But other than that, I won't guarantee anything. And I'm not about to take the risk of personally wasting an entire day w/ my pc to find out. I'll leave that to someone else.

Besides, capturing the audio myself is both more time effective and guaranteed. Plus the audio quality sounds just fine. I've compared the audio files I recorded to the atrac3 compressed wav files from the japanese version of the fmvs and to be honest, mine sounded just as clear as the direct rips IMO. I had headphones on, so I don't know for sure if that's a better way or worse way of telling. *shrugs shoulders* The only real difference I noticed were that my recorded wav files were louder...(and in english obviously).

This next part it off topic, but
with regards to KH2, the only cut scenes I've notice that can be ripped are those that show flashbacks to KH1/CoM (since they utilized a completely different engine) and the 1000 heartless battle. I guess animating that many enemies all at once is way too much for the ps2 to handle in real time, so I guess they had no choice but to save it as an m2v stream instead.

This post went on a lot longer than I initially expected it too. So I'll end this here for now.


Oh, I see...it leads me to wonder how good do extractors extract audio from games and if they are the best quality :shock: Now I understand why the cutscenes in KH2 are extracted that way too THX
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Postby MaggIvy » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:25 am

Hi, I have a quick question. For those of you that managed to rip the FMV's from the Final Fantasy 12 Japan what resolution did you use? I'm a bit confused in which one I should use.

The 640 by 352 or 640 by 416 (which ffx and x-2 use) or something completely different?...which ones do you guys recommend? The original size is, 512 by 352.

Sorry to be a bother if I am, just thought I'd ask.

Please and thank you.
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