Videogame Project? (Interest Gauge)

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Postby bluetrain » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:27 am

I Could produce a silent hill 1, 2 or 3 video by request. However i'd have to ask politely for savegames. Silent Hill forums are always a good place to go. Then again i could just beat it real quick on easy...

However i really really would love to do Fatal Frame II or Fatal Frame I - but the problems with my Capture card and xbox games makes it very hard if not impossible. My next question is does anybody know how to rip the FMVs from the Playstation II disk?

@ Dj Ultima - I think this has more potential to succeed than my Survival horror idea, as it is more broad. But will the org really not host it, if say, i was to use Halo? Why must all the games be of Japanese origins. I'm a passionate gamer too and i know of plenty a good story featured in U.S games. As this proves. The org is still willing to host videos which include U.S titles - as long as their is an "orgable" source listed in the video (which there will be). I'm not saying i would use this option but i'm not sure why it is already excluded.

Also i'd be willing to help you out with the technical side of things. Although i've never fully headed a MEP i've co-hosted and also been apart of a few in my time.

Overall its a good idea. Thanks for picking it up Jen!
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Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:03 pm

Alrighty, I figured I should give a vague update, even though there isn't much to update on, per se.

CrackTheSky: hmm... the idea of a 2-D segment is definitely interesting. I'll have to see what you do with it before I can make a judgment, though. Don't worry about deadlines when this thing finally kicks into gear. I'm probably going to be more relaxed about the schedule, so that'll give you plenty of time to work on a beta of something.

Scott Green, masterGT: so, you both like the idea of instrumentals too, huh? So do I. I'm definitely leaning towards it, and if enough of the potential participants show support for the idea, I wouldn't mind doing it.

bluetrain: a PS2 ripping guide is right here; it won't get you ALL of the scenes in the Fatal Frame games, if that's what you're considering, but it gets a LOT of them. More than enough to make a good segment. Also, I would love any help you can offer on the technical side. I'll be sure to PM you once I get more of this in order.

About the use of American games and/or games of origins other than Japan... it's not that I'm against it. It's just that in order for the MEP to be hosted on the .org, it needs about 75% Japanese games in it (actually, it's more like 51%, but we're being safe here). I said "Japanese games only" at the start just to make sure that people were leaning generally in that direction. If I get a segment or two with a non-Japanese game, I'm certainly not going to freak out. It just can't be the majority.

So, about the music... what does everyone think of instrumentals? I don't have a long mix in mind, but keeping things language-free would definitely lend some cohesion to the project. Another issue is our definition of "instrumental." Are we talking piano? Hardcore rock techno? I'd like to narrow it down and not have too many segments sitting on either extreme.

Of course, anyone willing to offer a long mix is still invited to do so. I'll keep searching through my music collection for something suitable. Until then, feel free to discuss the music or anything else relevant to the project.

One last thing: from the number of people showing interest, my goal is for roughly a ten minute project, minus the credits. I want to avoid going above fifteen minutes. After watching many MEPs, I've realized that even the best projects get boring to sit through at that point.

So, keep on brainstorming, folks. See ya.


- Jen

PS: I have all of the essentials for video editing/compiling installed, but my computer is having some problems unrelated to that. Just letting you know, because I may not post the official thread until around the second week of February or so. Hopefully the issues will be resolved by then.
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Postby Takefuji » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:12 pm

dj_ultima_the_great wrote:So, about the music... what does everyone think of instrumentals? I don't have a long mix in mind, but keeping things language-free would definitely lend some cohesion to the project. Another issue is our definition of "instrumental." Are we talking piano? Hardcore rock techno? I'd like to narrow it down and not have too many segments sitting on either extreme.

Of course, anyone willing to offer a long mix is still invited to do so. I'll keep searching through my music collection for something suitable. Until then, feel free to discuss the music or anything else relevant to the project.


Instrumental would be best for video game footage, I think. Way easier to synch various storylines to music with no lyrics.

As for definition . . . I was generally thinking music along the lines of soundtrack/trailer music, like Immediate Music or X-Ray Dog. I.e songs from movie soundtracks like Lord of the Rings, Van Helsing, Pirates of the Caribbean, etc. I could whip up a 10-12 minute mix of soundtrack songs if everyone else likes the idea.

But no Requiem for a Dream, kthx.

I think a dance instrumental would seem a wee out of place in an MEP of other instrumentals, unless the entire project was dance.
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Postby sayde » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:31 pm

I don't mind the idea of using instrumentals, but I'd prefer it if we could at least have the option of choosing the instrumental we'd like to use. (Not without approval of course.)
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Postby Takefuji » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:34 pm

sayde wrote:I don't mind the idea of using instrumentals, but I'd prefer it if we could at least have the option of choosing the instrumental we'd like to use. (Not without approval of course.)


That'd be a better idea, actually, because not everybody out there likes the soundtracks, and they're not exactly the easiest to edit to =\ Without becoming boring.

If we go with the people choosing their own songs, what we could do is anyone entering the project could send me their song, and I'll whip up a mix with all the songs.

Should do like, homework and stuff, but bah, AMVlife is more fun.
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Postby Scott Green » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:23 am

TakefujiYami-sama wrote:If we go with the people choosing their own songs, what we could do is anyone entering the project could send me their song, and I'll whip up a mix with all the songs.

Should do like, homework and stuff, but bah, AMVlife is more fun.


I think that´s the best Solution, because i was leaning onto something from Nine inch nails or soilwork for that....Then there is the Question are you going to cut them down or should we send you a cutted down version????

You are definetly so right!!!
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Postby Takefuji » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:26 am

Scott Green wrote:I think that´s the best Solution, because i was leaning onto something from Nine inch nails or soilwork for that....Then there is the Question are you going to cut them down or should we send you a cutted down version????

You are definetly so right!!!


You'd send me the full version of the song you'd like to use, maybe let me know which part of the song you like ideally, and I'll put everything together =3

This is, of course, provided this project gets rolling and everyone wants me to make the mix o.o
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Postby Scott Green » Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:54 am

Hey ripping with DMC3 is working, because i made it not exactly like the Guides says.......
But the thing that bothers me is that i couldn´t get all the scence....:x
But i will use Resident Evil 4 for my segment.....
I already found my song!!! A Part of Dream Theaters - Stream of Consciosness(1min 20 secs).....if someone makes a mix out of all songs from the editors.....
Now waiting for the Official Thread....
I´m really looking forward to this....
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Postby bluetrain » Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:56 am

ummm yeah. I'm not liking the idea of a big long song. I don't think that would work especially if you'll have games which aren't survival horrors involved... I think it'll have to be a free choice of music. Perhaps everyone should nominate a 0:30-1:30 cut and send a wav in to someone who creates a mix. I'd be happy to do that but TakefujiYami-sama has first dibs of course.

I will try this PS2 guide.. but i'm the kind of person that likes to have every scene at my fingertips. What is the reason for "not every scene?" - i guess with this i can use the first fatal frame and even the 3rd. But yeah i'd have to get an idea first.
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Postby sayde » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:21 am

bluetrain wrote: What is the reason for "not every scene?"


Because not every single cut scene in a given video game is being played back through 1 simple video stream. Some of them are being played back in real time using the console itself to animate the cut scene. Needless to say, ripping something like that is not something *most* people are capable of.
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Postby AquaSky » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:05 pm

I'd be interested in it. There are a few games I'd been wanting to use that wouldn't last for full-length vids (but 1:30 is certainly doable). Let me know if you go through with the project, it sounds fun.
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Postby Scott Green » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:40 am

Hey got all scence on Resident Evil 4!!!! yay!!!
Oh and if the Extractor somehow stops with scanning the file, use this one
FMV Extractor
besides it´s a freeware

sayde wrote:bluetrain wrote:
What is the reason for "not every scene?"


Because not every single cut scene in a given video game is being played back through 1 simple video stream. Some of them are being played back in real time using the console itself to animate the cut scene. Needless to say, ripping something like that is not something *most* people are capable of.


Now i will try extracting those real time files, though i don´t think it will work...
I still have to try!!!!!!!!!
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Postby bluetrain » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:45 am

sayde wrote:
bluetrain wrote: What is the reason for "not every scene?"


Because not every single cut scene in a given video game is being played back through 1 simple video stream. Some of them are being played back in real time using the console itself to animate the cut scene. Needless to say, ripping something like that is not something *most* people are capable of.


Right, i thought that only 'some' of the FMVs got ripped. Actual Gameplay "cinematics" (like in Silent Hill) were not what i was refering too. But its okay, just got the wires-crossed.
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Postby sayde » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:17 am

Scott Green wrote:Now i will try extracting those real time files, though i don´t think it will work...
I still have to try!!!!!!!!!


heh. Good luck with that.
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Postby AMV_4000 » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:46 pm

well.. lets see, im gunna post the games i would be interested in using and if anyone has a problem with certain ones then that will narrow my selection...

The Bouncer
FF8
Star Ocean
Zone Of Enders
Dot Hack
and i would LOVE to do one to FABLE but i doubt it fits the requirements...
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