The Attitudes Of AMV Creators...

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Postby FurryCurry » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:02 am

SpPanda: Great post. now I pick nits.

I've seen and heard stories of AMV Creators bitch and whine to get their way at conventions because they think they're special. but you know what? you shouldn't be getting any special priveleges. I don't care who you are.


Um, I think (submitting) creators ought to at least get preferred seating at the contest, ne?
more than that is bullshit, unless its someone who has been invited as a guest for a panel, or somesuch. Then it should be admission, period.

Tommyrude vs. ErMaC:

You mean other people besides Tommy loathe ermac? I guess I haven't been here long enough to see much of that.
Anyone here who has read & used ermac's guide to using DVD footage better not have much bad to say about the guy, unless they have a better alternative to offer.
Tommy makes decent vids, from the one I've seen. (eva/linkin park)
I'll dis him a tiny bit on his overly dramatic posting style though.
No bads on the idea he had for the DDR thing, but damn, talk about taking it all too personally...
I umm.. don't like ErMaC's vids all that much personally, but I see the production quality plain as day... its just a personal taste issue...


Really, noone can just proclaim themselves elite. This is a community, with the only whiff of dictatorship coming from Phade, as it should.

The rest of us can agree or call bullshit as needed.

PS: Spamda: your vids dont suck. ...cause I said so, that's why.

OK, bring the flames. :x
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Postby Castor Troy » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:02 am

"I'M SO FUCKING COOL BECAUSE I CAN EDIT JAPANESE CARTOONS TO MUSIC! I AM GOD! LOVE ME"
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Postby SpPANDA » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:04 am

BogoSort wrote:blah blah blah.... blah...


i read that thread... and i've got to talk to tom personally.
he wanted to originally help out by making the 5th remix. before the others were done with theirs. but the other creators claimed rights ont eh 5th mix amv that wasn't done. wasn't started...

for future refrence.... "BogoSort".... 'you can't work on your next AMV... because... it's alreayd in my head.. and i'm using the same song and i'm going to make it better.... and i'd like to see you make a better video than mine. because you wont. and i hope you fail. and i'll laugh my powdery ass off when you do'.

...'powdery ass'?
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Postby SpPANDA » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:06 am

FurryCurry wrote:Um, I think (submitting) creators ought to at least get preferred seating at the contest, ne?
more than that is bullshit, unless its someone who has been invited as a guest for a panel, or somesuch. Then it should be admission, period.


seating is one thing... flat out making demands is another.
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Postby SpPANDA » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:07 am

Castor Troy wrote:"I'M SO FUCKING COOL BECAUSE I CAN EDIT JAPANESE CARTOONS TO MUSIC! I AM GOD! LOVE ME"


i wont only love you... but....

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Postby Koopiskeva » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:08 am

Hmm... I think I'll add my own deals to this..

Getting back to 'this isn't what the community should turn out to be;' this'll probably surface later on, but as with any community, there are always problems that are going to surface. I know you were just letting off some steam Panda, but the truth is, people will always be competitive. No matter where you look, there's always an arguement about something, about practically anything. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that we are all just people, and people in general are stubborn.

What you're ranting about Panda not only applies in the AMV community, but pretty much any other community that ever existed. Even as we talk about this in our thread, although I don't want to point any fingers, we seek recognition and acceptance from the others in the org. We're all guilty of trying to be popular. Sure, some may say 'I do this for myself' yet they place the video in the org anyway. Trust me, if you really didn't want to receive any recognition, you would not have posted anything on here.

Basically, what we have to do now is accept the fact that conflicts and arguements will occur in here. Unless we all did not have a motive to become known somehow, no matter how little, we probably would not have been creating these. It's kinda like an artist saying that they don't want to be recognized for their work. They do, just as we do. The awards we win for these, although might cause conflict, they make us strive to become better. Without competition, we would probably have not gone this far since we would've been happy where we were.

About the newbie thing, yes we do vent on them. But just as with any other aspect of life, such as bullying the freshman, etc.. it's all inevitable. We can't stop people from thinking their better than others since by doing so, we'd have to stomp on them.

I don't plan to give a solution here to solve this problem. All I can say is basically to enjoy whatever it is about AMVs that made you want to create them in the first place. I'm not saying just to ignore the bad attitudes of the others, but realize that they're not perfect, neither is the communityand it'll probably never be.
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Postby FurryCurry » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:10 am

SpPANDA wrote:
FurryCurry wrote:Um, I think (submitting) creators ought to at least get preferred seating at the contest, ne?
more than that is bullshit, unless its someone who has been invited as a guest for a panel, or somesuch. Then it should be admission, period.


seating is one thing... flat out making demands is another.


Umm... agreed? :?
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Postby FirestormXIII » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:12 am

Koop....you...made....sense.... :shock:

And good points too...


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Postby Castor Troy » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:13 am

In the end, we are all just editing japanese cartoons to music.
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Postby Nappy » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:15 am

[quote="Jebadia"]someone (an ass) is probably going to eventually going to try to make a note on something wrong with your post thinking "Hey, he just called me an ass."


Hey! he just called me a ass. Dammit Panda your noob, don't you know I'm 733T, err L33T? leet, el33t, 7337, 4834, R2D2, 90210, whatever dude I owes juuuu!!! Don't make meh aXeHoRe juu!!!


hehe >:P
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Postby Koopiskeva » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:15 am

but in the end, we're just placing motion pictures to noises that sound cool when put together...
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Postby TommyRude » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:20 am

Yo, wanna point somethin out to my good buddy Bogosort, then I'm gonna continue to stay 500 miles away from this topic.
No, the DDR projects past DDR3 are NOT in works. My original gripe (which you fucking retards who keep bringing this up would know by now if you actually payed attention an' formed your on views rather than jus' recylcling the info that gets passed down to you) was that some members in the DDR group got defensive because they were planning on planning to get ready to make the project wit the 5th mix in about 2 years. THAT caught me as a little, well, 'off'. I'm sorry yo, but it jus' seems wrong when someone gets miffed because someone else tries to use a soundtrack they wanted to use more than a year later.
According to ermac, the DDR group claims exclusive rights to make AMVs to all the mixes. ALL of them. They are booking this crap up to 5 years in advance! Doesn't that seem a little selfish?
Now, time to play devil's advocate. I admit, striaght up, that I was ripping off their idea. Thing is, I didn't see anything wrong wit it. I still don'. A lot of the guys that I talked to from the DDR group didn't see nuthin wrong wit it. The only reason things got hot is cuz of a couple people who didn't like the idea of anyone else doin' a DDR project. I'm pretty sure these same people refuse to play Pump it Up on a matter of principle because is' a rip-off of DDR, or neva' played Mortal Kombat because Street Fighter was the first an' therefore the only 'real' fighting game. (I know it wasn't really the first, but Is' jus' an analogy dammit.)
My point? 'Rip-offs' aren't ALWAYS a bad thing. Had I set out to copy say the first DDR project, an' use the same animes for all the vids as in the original, an' bascially copy the old one, THEN they would have reason to complain. But I took a mix they hadn't gotten to yet, set out to organize totally original vids for it, an' show it at a different con. I was in NO WAY infringing on them or their project, yet SOMEHOW I'm still the bad guy in all this.
Think about it before you try an' vent your ass over the subject next time.
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Postby FirestormXIII » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:21 am

Fine, since no one else has the balls to say it... :P



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Postby Castor Troy » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:24 am

TommyRude wrote:According to ermac, the DDR group claims exclusive rights to make AMVs to all the mixes. ALL of them.


*gets on the phone*

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Postby Koopiskeva » Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:28 am

just cuz MJ requested this..


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