In Trouble with the Deen

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In Trouble with the Deen

Postby MaximoffZero » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:15 pm

Hey,

I'm fooling around with different noise filters in Avisynth because my usual filters don't seem to be cutting it. I downloaded Deen and took a look at some sample scripts. The sample scripts used a function called "w3d", but when I tried to use it Avisynth said it was an invalid function. My guess is that I'm using an outdated version of Deen. If that's the case, could some one direct me to an updated copy of it (and if that's not the case, tell me what's going on)? Thanks in advance.
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Postby Sereenie » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:43 pm

Did you put w3d between apostrophes, i.e. Deen("w3d",x,x,x)?

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Postby MaximoffZero » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:05 pm

Yes I did. I believe I even tried it without the "" and it still came back invalid.
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Postby Sereenie » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:12 pm

Did you load the plugin in your script? Or create an avsi file for it?

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Postby MaximoffZero » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:19 pm

I just loaded the plugin. Should I be using an avsi?
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Postby Sereenie » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:22 pm

You don't *have* to, no. But it automates whatever command you put in it, so when you install a new plugin, you can just add an extra "loadplugin" command in the file so you won't have to manually type the command in each script...

Is it working, now?

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Postby MaximoffZero » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:28 pm

Well, I actually am not looking at the script right now. I'm telling you all this from memory. I'll have to check it when I get home.
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Postby Sereenie » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:40 pm

Then all I can suggest is, make sure you've installed the plugin in the right directory, that you haven't mistyped Deen("w3d",x,x,x) and that you've used Loadplugin("path") either in your script or in an avsi file.

I have another idea if that still doesn't work: Deen is included in the AMVApp's presets. You'd first have to uninstall Avisynth, though, and make sure to uncheck any other application included in the App during the installation procedure, or else the installation will go wrong.

If it still doesn't work, then just come back and someone will be able to help you more than I can: I'm used to checking the basics because that's always where my own problems lie, but that's about it! ^_^

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Postby MaximoffZero » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:44 pm

Thanks for all your help. I'll be home in a few hours and I'll try the script again. If it still doesn't work after all those suggestions, I'll let you (and anyone else who reads this thread) know.
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Postby Sereenie » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:48 pm

Sereenie wrote:any other application included in the App during the installation procedure


That isn't clear: I meant that any application already installed on your computer and also included in the AMVApp needs to be unchecked during the installation procedure.

Good luck!

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Postby MaximoffZero » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:51 pm

Finally I'm home. Well, I've tried all the suggestions and I still get this message when I try to playback the file:

deen : name list : 'c3d', 'a3d', 'm3d', 'a2d' or 'm2d'.
(C:\Project Folder\FMATest.avs, line 8)

It's basically saying that there is no "w3d". Not sure what's going on.
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Postby Zarxrax » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:28 pm

You have the wrong version. The one in the amvapp supports w3d.
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Postby MaximoffZero » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:56 pm

That's about what I was thinking in the first place. The thing is I downloaded AMVapp a few days ago and told it overwrite my old Avisynth plugins. Apparently, the installer thought that my version of Deen was the latest one when it wasn't.

Oh well, I uninstalled Avisynth and AMVapp and then reinstalled the latter of the two (with Avisynth checked this time). Now Deen works fine and this footage is lookin' great!

Thanks a lot, Sereenie and Zarxrax (and whoever put together that AMVapp thing)!
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Postby Autraya » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:21 pm

Let me know how it goes with the W's I haven't had much luck with them and ended up using A's instead.
I had big splotches & rainbows with W but more colour bands and much smaller splotches with A. I also resorted to 2d,3 on (scinitilla's? n others ) advice and there was a noticeble difference.
how does it work for you?

Which anime are you using it on?
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Postby MaximoffZero » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:18 pm

Hey Autraya,

I only played around with Deen for a little bit and I didn't get to test all of the settings. I mostly just toyed with a3d and w3d. I didn't get any rainbows like what you were getting but I definitely did see a few splotches. It looked as though Deen was turning large pixel blocks into large pixel blobs. In spite of that, however, I actually thought overall that this filter is a bit overkill. I was testing it on Fullmetal Alchemist because I noticed that that series in particular isn't encoded very well (I find this ironic considering that usually it's the unpopular animes that look crappy) and it needed some cleanup.

Anyway, it was a bit of overkill and it did seem to take out some detail (on top of that it was really slow on the conversion). Again I haven't tested all the settings yet, but from the short experience I've had I'd say save this filter for an anime that looks REALLY bad.

And no, I'm not working on a Fullmetal AMV. Just using it for tests
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