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Postby CrackTheSky » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:15 pm

-Bauzi- wrote:
CrackTheSky wrote:/me gets a screwy error message when I try to play your beta, Kaxi.

I got one two. Use VLC.


I did.
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Postby Greggus1 » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:16 pm

"Come on Schnuffi make a kacki on the green and let´s move on."

I laughed so hard at that I farted. Ironic? :?

Awesome beta Kaxi, but the Nur Getraaaaaaaaumt is just begging to be lipsynched. Please! I'm begging you to lipsync it!
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Postby BauziOLD » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:22 pm

I laughed so hard at that I farted. Ironic?

I didn´t wanted to hear that so detailed. No it wasn´t ironic. ^^
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Postby omegaevolution » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:06 pm

Greggus1 wrote:Awesome beta Kaxi, but the Nur Getraaaaaaaaumt is just begging to be lipsynched. Please! I'm begging you to lipsync it!


x2 :D

Now I have a very much clear reference on how to edit this thing, oh I finally fixed my codec problems, so I will hopefully start today-tomorrow.

Still don´t expect a beta with Adobe AE, it will take more time to master that thing XD
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Postby Aerialesque » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:12 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:
-Bauzi- wrote:
CrackTheSky wrote:/me gets a screwy error message when I try to play your beta, Kaxi.

I got one two. Use VLC.


I did.


I used RealPlayer, and I didn't get an error.
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Postby CrackTheSky » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:23 pm

aerialesque wrote:
CrackTheSky wrote:
-Bauzi- wrote:
CrackTheSky wrote:/me gets a screwy error message when I try to play your beta, Kaxi.

I got one two. Use VLC.


I did.


I used RealPlayer, and I didn't get an error.


:/

I used both. Got an error message with Real, and I got about a second of video with VLC. Oh well. I'll just wait to see it.
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Postby Kaxi » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:44 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:I used both. Got an error message with Real, and I got about a second of video with VLC. Oh well. I'll just wait to see it.


If everything fails, try to open it with VirtualDubMod (with directshowsource) and reencode it to something that you can play - it may be that the downloaded file has an error, try to redownload it.
If still no solutions, i'll upload a mp4 version later, i don't have it on me now.

Greggus1 wrote:Awesome beta Kaxi, but the Nur Getraaaaaaaaumt is just begging to be lipsynched. Please! I'm begging you to lipsync it!


Hmm, i don't know :D Will it look good? I'll probably try it out.

guy07 wrote:my only beef is with the the semi-circle at :14, something seems a bit off about it, and you need to use some sort of effect on the waves at :8. Maybe like a chroma/media generator or like fade to effect in the middle sort of thing :S u decide.


I don't really know what to do about the circle to sync it better, i think it is an okay sync, but i agree that it could have been better. Any suggestions on how to make it better???
There already is an effect on the waves, a little gradient map (or something like don't :D), i think that this is enaugh, maybe i'll try something out with it, but it may stay the same. Thanks for your input, guy07

-Bauzi- wrote:To your beta... I´m not so pleased with the beginning I´m missing effects here. Don´t ask me wich, but I miss one for a techno amv XD
To the round thing at the end: A bit wired, that it doesn´t move synced to the music or just in a static motion.
Rossette´s butt-shaki´n at 0:10 a bit more faster ^^'
Syncing effects around 0:11.: Please give the pictures a cookie cutter (or whatever) for round edges.


I didn't want to make the whole segment full of effects, so at the first edited seconds there are only beat-synced scenes, do you think thats not enaugh?
"To the round thing at the end: A bit wired, that it doesn´t move synced to the music or just in a static motion." It moves, well, not continously, synced to the beats, in static motion, okay, well, that was my purpose :D how could i make it better?

"Rossette´s butt-shaki´n at 0:10 a bit more faster ^^" okay, i'll try it :D
"Syncing effects around 0:11.: Please give the pictures a cookie cutter (or whatever) for round edges." you mean feather on the edges? i think that there is some on them, but i can set it a little higher. Thanks.
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Postby guy07 » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:37 pm

It's amazing, the forums was dead for like a week and kaxi posts something and it comes back to life ...kaxi, are you jesus? :shock:
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Postby Kaxi » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:27 am

guy07 wrote:It's amazing, the forums was dead for like a week and kaxi posts something and it comes back to life ...kaxi, are you jesus? :shock:


lol, yeah and i make AMVs from water (besides wine of course :D)
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Postby guy07 » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:11 pm

Lol, so here's what i'v got for a beta so far:
http://download.yousendit.com/39B7946B470EF9D1
I know about the stray frame near the beginning and that the piano keys are a bit off synch, i did that in a bit of a hurry, i know i need up put tighter music synch in there and will do so, any thing else i should change/add?
Also, kaxi if you want i might be able to whip together some music for the outro, i'v been itching for a excuse to make something.
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Postby CrackTheSky » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:33 pm

guy07 wrote:Lol, so here's what i'v got for a beta so far:
http://download.yousendit.com/39B7946B470EF9D1
I know about the stray frame near the beginning and that the piano keys are a bit off synch, i did that in a bit of a hurry, i know i need up put tighter music synch in there and will do so, any thing else i should change/add?
Also, kaxi if you want i might be able to whip together some music for the outro, i'v been itching for a excuse to make something.


My suggestions:
-Make whatever you use to sync to the "Woo-woo!" stand out more.
-The overlay around 0:13 looks kinda...I dunno, intrusive? It doesn't really fit, IMO.
-I think maybe you could get away with synching to the drum beats starting at 0:12 more.
-Lip flap (0:15)?
-And yeah, fix up the synching on the piano keys.

Other than that, /me likes.
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Postby Scott Green » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:51 pm

To Kaxis Beta:
The first half was cool, i would let it like this....
But when the circle "thing" showed up I wasn´t quite sure what you synced there???
I dunno it felt a little off.. maybe you should sync the background scence to the piano...

To Bauzis Beta:
Looks kinda interesting...but I´m not quite sure about the white background....
Okay let´s wait for more....

To guy 07s Beta:
The Blue "lines" are slightly off the sync..
A little more syncing to drum and piano, but you said yourself you have to work on it more...here to, wait for more....
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Postby BauziOLD » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:40 pm

Sry I will the next beta tommorrow I have to learn alot!

uhm... Kaxi to yours again. You´ve used in the end a black background. Please try a colourful background like a bluesky or whatever. Maybe it looks more sweet ^^
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Postby Kaxi » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:13 pm

Okay, let's do it! :D

(some quoted from sKy's suggestions)
"Make whatever you use to sync to the "Woo-woo!" stand out more"
So, i totally agree with sKy on this, you should make something to make it more visible (sync-wise too). Maybe make them a little bigger (these are masks from the scene, are they?), i don't know, i'll contact you if anything good hits my mind.

"The overlay around 0:13 looks kinda...I dunno, intrusive? It doesn't really fit, IMO"
Yeah, that overlay does not fit well at all. You should remove it and go on with syncing with cuts, but they seemed a little off sync too, maybe you should sync new scenes to every beat, or new scenes to every second beat while keeping the main scene running synced to the other every second beat (is it understandable? :D)

"Lip flap (0:15)?"
Maybe, you decide, i don't find it that disturbing with CG graphics, but you might considering changing it.

- Stray frame at 0:02 (this is the one you mentioned i guess), and another one at 0:10, please kill these.
- 0:10 i see that you motion-synced the girl stepping down the stairs, but could you also make some white flashes over it? It might look better that way.
- at 0:17, could you crop the video at the transition so that the black bars won't go with the video itself.

But the biggest problem with it that it is not even near 720x460 aspect ratio.
The file itself is 640x480, but that wouldn't be that big of a problem, because my footage is based on 640x480 as well, but i can crop it down to 640x432, which is almost the same as 720x480. But the video (i mean the real video footage) is only 640x360... i don't know how i could make it look like 640x426 without distortions. Check it out if you can render it differently or we must cut out from the sides to fit it in - but zooming that much would definately cause video quality loss. We must solve it somehow, check it out as soon as possible!
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Postby Kaxi » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:16 pm

-Bauzi- wrote:You´ve used in the end a black background. Please try a colourful background like a bluesky or whatever. Maybe it looks more sweet ^^

I don't know, i wonder how it would look. Maybe, a light blue sky with very few details (clouds etc) may look better, i'll take a look.
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