Help with subtitles?

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Help with subtitles?

Post by dowhatnow » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:09 pm

No, not to get rid of them, to add them in!

I'm thinking of adding subtitles in a couple AMVs in the future, and I figured I'd ask now in the hopes that it would speed up production.

I've heard of Aegisub, but know nothing about it.

My questions are:
  • Is Aegisub the answer to my problems?

    If it's not, what would I use and how would I use it to incorporate subtitles in my AMV?

    Will the program given in the second question, Aegisub or otherwise, be usable with Premiere Pro 2.0 and the applications bunched together in the AMVApp?
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Post by AMV_4000 » Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:15 pm

if your using premiere, why not just use its title maker.. File > New > Title...
You could always use Photoshop if you have it... or hell..

You could use MSPaint, just make a bitmap of the text... put in a green Background, *or Black* save as a bitmap, Import it into premiere and either Greenscreen or Lumance it... simple...

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Post by Minion » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:04 pm

the titler in any editing program.
aside from that - maybe see what fan subbers use?
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Post by AMV_4000 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:54 am

isnt there a way to do this in avisynth too???

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Post by dowhatnow » Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:34 am

Minion wrote:maybe see what fan subbers use?
That's where I heard about Aegisub.

To reiterate AMV_4000's question:
isnt there a way to do this in avisynth too???
Also, how does one make the subtitles scroll (side to side, top to bottom, etc.)? And what of the effects that could be applied to them? I'm assuming they're the same as the video itself.

Thanks for all the info, by the way.

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:00 am

I've also heard the name "sub station alpha" thrown around, i'd look into that if you want anything other than your standard text.

As for simply scroling... you could do that in Premiere or whatnot... set xy position key frames and write out a really long string of constantly flowing text.
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Post by dokidoki » Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:38 pm

AMV_4000 wrote:isnt there a way to do this in avisynth too???
http://avisynth.org.ru/docs/english/cor ... btitle.htm
jonnkakarotto wrote:Also, how does one make the subtitles scroll (side to side, top to bottom, etc.)?
You could move a title/overlay around in Premiere, or try the SubtitleEx plugin.
BasharOfTheAges wrote:I've also heard the name "sub station alpha" thrown around, i'd look into that if you want anything other than your standard text.
The last version of SSA (4.08) was released in 2000. It's not bad, but I'd look for something more up to date. Aegisub (mentioned above) looked good when I was checking out newer programs. I don't know if I'd use it for an AMV, but it depends on what you're doing and how you're doing it.
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Post by dowhatnow » Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:10 pm

dokidoki wrote:
AMV_4000 wrote:isnt there a way to do this in avisynth too???
http://avisynth.org.ru/docs/english/cor ... btitle.htm
jonnkakarotto wrote:Also, how does one make the subtitles scroll (side to side, top to bottom, etc.)?
You could move a title/overlay around in Premiere, or try the SubtitleEx plugin.
BasharOfTheAges wrote:I've also heard the name "sub station alpha" thrown around, i'd look into that if you want anything other than your standard text.
The last version of SSA (4.08) was released in 2000. It's not bad, but I'd look for something more up to date. Aegisub (mentioned above) looked good when I was checking out newer programs. I don't know if I'd use it for an AMV, but it depends on what you're doing and how you're doing it.
Wow. Those two links for subtitle example scripts are quite the informative pieces of information. Perhaps later, though.

As for what I'm doing, I'd planned on doing something similar to the end of your "Hello Fairy" AMV, as far as subtitles go. Optimally, I'd like it to look as though it was subtitled that way on the DVD.

Like if Person A and Person B are conversing in Japanese,

Person A: "I WILL PWN J00 N00B!!1"
Person B: "WTF?"

Do you see what I'm sayin here?

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Post by dokidoki » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:14 am

jonnkakarotto wrote:As for what I'm doing, I'd planned on doing something similar to the end of your "Hello Fairy" AMV, as far as subtitles go. Optimally, I'd like it to look as though it was subtitled that way on the DVD.
The Mahoro part ("Ice cream truck!") was subtitled with AviSynth.

Code: Select all

v=AVISource("c:\av\ahf\ED\Mahorospeech.avi").AssumeFPS(23.976)
v1=v.Trim(0,10)
v2a=v.Trim(11,125)
v2=v2a.Subtitle("text",align=8,size=30,x=321-2,y=375,text_color=$0).\
Subtitle("text",align=8,size=30,x=321+2,y=375,text_color=$0).\
Subtitle("text",align=8,size=30,x=321,y=375-2,text_color=$0).\
Subtitle("text",align=8,size=30,x=321,y=375+2,text_color=$0).\
Subtitle("text",align=8,size=30,x=321-1,y=375-1,text_color=$0).\
Subtitle("text",align=8,size=30,x=321-1,y=375+1,text_color=$0).\
Subtitle("text",align=8,size=30,x=321+1,y=375-1,text_color=$0).\
Subtitle("text",align=8,size=30,x=321+1,y=375+1,text_color=$0).\
Subtitle("text",align=8,size=30,x=321,y=375)
v1+v2
("text" = "I think that Hell is bad! It gives you ADD!")
I called Subtitle multiple times because I wanted a thicker border.
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Post by dowhatnow » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:27 am

So, if I wanted a subtitle to appear after the other one disappears, I'd make another script, except using different trim times, correct?

Also, I messed around with it a bit, and I noticed the second trim time in that script you posted hacks off the end of the video. What am I doing wrong here?

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