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Postby godix » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:55 pm

Now that we have this fancy new forum for AviSynth I suggest people post their scripts for specific series here. AMVwiki had this but for the most part that project seems to have died. And yes, I know there's a wide variety of scripts and scripting is one of those areas that some say 'learn to do it yourself' but lets face it, some people love playing with scripting while others despise it and just want something that looks decent so they can edit. Personally speaking, if someone can post a script that makes the original non-platinum Eva look like anything but pure crap then I'll suck your dick*.

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Postby Kariudo » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:59 pm

well...I'm thinking of doing something with eva in the near future, so I started playing around with avisynth...maybe this'l work with the non-platinum version too.
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TFM(order=-1,mode=5,PP=7,field=-1,slow=2)
tdecimate(mode=1)
RemoveGrain()
blur(0,1)
warpsharp()
Deen("a3d", 1)
ConvertToYUY2()
FixBrokenChromaUpsampling()

looked at the amvwiki one and added some stuff
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if you don't click on it again (to show full image) the lines will be messed up, but the noise is still gone
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Postby Scintilla » Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 am

Kariudo wrote:
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FixBrokenChromaUpsampling()

What in hell? Why would there be a bad chroma upsampling in that processing chain?

(And does this filter even work for bad chroma upsamplings that have nothing to do with the Canopus DV codec, which is cited in the documentation as the reason the filter was written?)
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Postby Kariudo » Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:35 am

Scintilla wrote:
Kariudo wrote:
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FixBrokenChromaUpsampling()

What in hell? Why would there be a bad chroma upsampling in that processing chain?

(And does this filter even work for bad chroma upsamplings that have nothing to do with the Canopus DV codec, which is cited in the documentation as the reason the filter was written?)


hmm..didn't read the documentation, looked at the example in eadfag and then looked at the first few frames. Thought I saw a similarity, decided to use that filter and liked the result (made the colors in the scene less hazy)
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Postby AMV_4000 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:37 am

a really good way to make FLCL look better? *de-interlacing and stuff*

i fixed my video by playing with avs, but for anyone else, whats best??
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Postby x_rex30 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:33 am

I recommend this for Bible Black.

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loadplugin("C:\Programs\Programs\dgmpgdec140\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source("H:\Bible Black\Bible Black.d2v",info=3)
LoadPlugin("C:\Avisynth\plugins\fft3dfilter.dll")
Import("C:\Programs\Installers\AviSynth Plugins\LimitedSharpenFaster.avs")
ColorMatrix(hints=true)
BiFrost()
DeCross()
dedot()
AssumeTFF()
Interp = SeparateFields().SelectEven().EEDI2(field=1)
Deinted=TDeint(order=1,field=1,edeint=Interp)
TFM(d2v="H:\Bible Black\Bible Black.d2v",mode=6,order=1,PP=7,slow=2,mChroma=false,Clip2=Deinted)
TDecimate(mode=1)
FFT3DFilter(sigma=6,plane=3,bw=32,bh=32,bt=3,ow=16,oh=16)
Crop(10,2,704,478,align=true)
Lanczos4Resize(640,480)
Tweak(hue=1.0,sat=1.3,bright=0.0,cont=1.0)
msharpen(threshold=0,strength=71)
LimitedSharpenFaster()
Levels(0,0.880,255,0,255)
AssumeFPS(23.976)


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Might want to F with Tweak, I just set it up the way I thought looked good. I had some help from Chainmax, thanks goes to him for the deinterlacing method and for some of the filters used.
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Postby AMV_4000 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:06 am

anything for Princess 69? or should i just toy with it like i did flcl?
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Postby Kariudo » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:50 am

It's been mentioned a few times before, but AvsP is a really nice tool
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=115506
very helpful for fine-tuning the filters in your script (unless you happen to like using beforeafter and having to re-open the script everytime you make a change)

it really helped out for when I cleaned up Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu (finding the fthreshl and othreshl values)...speaking of which
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Tcomb(mode=2,fthreshl=12, othreshl=19)
TFM(order=-1,mode=5,PP=7,field=-1,slow=2)
tdecimate(mode=1)
Deen("a3d",1,2,5)
crop(8,0,-8,0)
lanczosresize(720,480)
tweak(sat=1.2)

the tweak was added to try to compensate for the "washed out" look that can occur from filtering, though I had that line commented out for this shot
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Postby ngsilver » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:51 am

Anyone have a script to clean up LD rips of Sailor Stars? I've seen some good quality videos reciently and wondered what they were doing differently then me.
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Postby Qyot27 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:42 am

Kariudo wrote:looked at the amvwiki one and added some stuff

I should note that the script for Platinum on AMVWiki is from before I started using TFM, which did away with the need for Blur, Warpsharp, and FastLineDarken (Blur was to get rid of the interlacing artifacts Telecine left behind, Warpsharp was to counteract the haze Blur introduced, and FastLineDarken was called to try to get the lines back at the right thickness - since TFM minimized or eliminated the interlacing artifacts, there was no longer a reason for that long chain). Unfortunately, I can't edit pages on there anymore, or at least the Eva ones, and couldn't/can't fix it.
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Postby trythil » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:06 pm

Qyot27 wrote: Unfortunately, I can't edit pages on there anymore, or at least the Eva ones, and couldn't/can't fix it.


My intention is to move AMVWiki to some other server, where I'll have a greater degree of control over the system. This will, among other things, let me install Mediawiki upgrades with less fuss, and let me fix the inevitable issues (like what we have now with the broken image linking).

Unfortunately, I've got about 16.48 +/- 3 projects in various states of activity on my to-do list, so this may very well never get done. If someone's interested in reviving the wiki system, let me know.

However...

godix wrote:Now that we have this fancy new forum for AviSynth I suggest people post their scripts for specific series here. AMVwiki had this but for the most part that project seems to have died.


...in retrospect, I'm kind of happy that that part of the wiki died. Stuff like

Kariudo wrote:
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crop(8,0,-8,0)
lanczosresize(720,480)



illustrates one of my problems with it: people contributing scripts without noting exactly what they were doing. (Yes, I was guilty of this too.)

My objection to that script segment is that it screws with the aspect ratio by clipping off the side black bars and horizontally stretching the image to fit the original image size. This isn't necessarily so bad when we can correct this sort of stuff with aspect ratio flags in modern video containers, but it should at least be pointed out. Otherwise, it's just deceptive.

There were also problems with suspiciously bloated filter chains, ridiculous saturation boosts with Tweak, usage of ColorYUV "just because the guide had it", excessive derainbowing, noise reduction, and sharpening, and all kinds of ugh on those lines.

Now, none of this is a problem if you start with the premise that people using these scripts will dissect and modify them to learn from them. However, I'm starting to think that that premise is invalid for the vast majority of editors on the .org, which is why I posted this.
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Postby Jebadia » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:16 pm

AMV_4000 wrote:a really good way to make FLCL look better? *de-interlacing and stuff*

i fixed my video by playing with avs, but for anyone else, whats best??


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Postby Scintilla » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:20 pm

trythil wrote:There were also problems with suspiciously bloated filter chains, ridiculous saturation boosts with Tweak, usage of ColorYUV "just because the guide had it", excessive derainbowing, noise reduction, and sharpening, and all kinds of ugh on those lines.

I'm really hoping that version 3 of the A/V tech guide will fix this. I seem to remember things looking promising on the AVISynth postprocessing front. However, that was also months ago, and it's still not public.

trythil wrote:Now, none of this is a problem if you start with the premise that people using these scripts will dissect and modify them to learn from them. However, I'm starting to think that that premise is invalid for the vast majority of editors on the .org, which is why I posted this.

I know, I know, I'll finish it eventually. :P

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AMV_4000 wrote:a really good way to make FLCL look better? *de-interlacing and stuff*

i fixed my video by playing with avs, but for anyone else, whats best??

listen to this man, he brings up an interesting question.

Am I the only one who had no problems simply using the good ol' Telecide-Decimate combination on FLCL?
(Of course, these days I'd use TFM and TDecimate, but.)
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Postby godix » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:08 am

trythil wrote:Now, none of this is a problem if you start with the premise that people using these scripts will dissect and modify them to learn from them. However, I'm starting to think that that premise is invalid for the vast majority of editors on the .org, which is why I posted this.

Most of us are in the hobby because we enjoy creating something new with existing source. Few of us actually care about about the technical aspects of video and even fewer care enough to go really in depth on the tech side of things. From that point of view using a script that someone else wrote is the same as using anime as our source. They didn't create the thing but that's fine, the creativity of editing is what this hobby is about for them rather than making the source by hand. So yeah, people are going to use scripts posted without understanding what they do and without modifying them. However if the end result is better looking source, even if the script they swiped isn't perfect, then it's a net plus.

Insisting that people learn all about scripting is kinda like insisting that a kid who wants to play baseball learn all about the physics of wind resistance on a spherical object. It's kinda related to the hobby but it's hardly the reason people are playing ball. As long as the kid knows if he wacks the ball solidly it'll go flying away he's fine not knowing the details of why. As long as someone has a script that makes their footage look better they're fine not knowing the details of why. If YOU want to go into details that's great, enjoy. But don't be surprised if most of go 'yeah yeah, whatever. Just tell me which fucking sharpener is best for this series so I can start editing would you?' If you don't want to tell me that's cool, there are others posting in this thread who are perfectly willing to share their knowledge.

Not that it matters but I'm halfway between the two. I know enough to figure out what most scripts are doing but I don't care enough to spend hours figuring out what is the best possible script. If the source looks better than when I started then I'm happy no matter who's scripting I'm using. Depending on what I'm doing of course, some projects I'm more picky about than others.
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Postby trythil » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:12 am

godix wrote:Insisting that people learn all about scripting is kinda like insisting that a kid who wants to play baseball learn all about the physics of wind resistance on a spherical object.


I don't insist on that. What I do want is the kid to learn enough about baseball such that he or she

(1) learns why their last pitch was a ball and not a strike,
(2) understands how to hit a ball,
(3) does not peg the batter in the crotch,
(4) continues to improve.

Or, to put it another way: there's certain fundamentals in baseball in which one should try to establish a solid foundation before trying out crazy maneuvers. What seems to be happening here is people doing the latter without the former.
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