genestarwind21122 wrote:Hypothetically let say the worst case scenario happens and the org is not allowed to host "label" bands. That still doesn't mean we have to shut down the org. As creators we still have options. If you go to myspace.com you can find plunty of local bands and ask to use their music. Or even yourself you can start using your own music if you have a band of your own. So while it would be a shame that we would loose a lot of music to work to that we could not host on the org, there are still other options out there.
But you're overlooking another side of this:
There's no such thing as "label-anime" and "non-label-anime". Worst-case scenario: If TV Tokyo, for example, decides that we should remove all videos that use anime to which they have license, we take a big hit. Others follow, and now we can only have videos like Lost Kitten and Greed vs Envy that use original animation. Then the org would become something almost identical to DeviantART (except for the forums, which stand for 89% of my time here, but are used by less than half of the community).
However, I do agree with godix in the sense that the corporations have bigger fish to fry. Also, these bigger fish have a tendency to respawn and reproduce (e.g. Napster -> Morpheus -> KaZaA -> Shareaza -> LimeWire & SoulSeek, not to mention the titan eMule) and are used by many more people than a-m-v.org. But if they do run into us (which isn't that difficult, just see what trythil found)
trythil wrote:(1) They had (have) strong links to this copyright underground.
Here is an example.
then we'll have a hard time surviving. One could say that we'll just have to remove the videos (like what happened with the Evanescence label) but I'm actually surprised that it turned out the way it did. Having to shut down the videos
and pay a gargantuan fine for material damages is far more likely, from my point of view. And if the fine is too much, the site would have to shut down, along with these forums. If I believed in God, I'd pray every day for this not to happen, but it
can happen.
About blaming YouTube, I do think we should. Policies apart, they draw attention. Period. Attention is what this is all about, and the org only lived this long because we didn't get any from the big guys. Ethically and morally, the sites are the same (at least on the paper); The people who use them are different. The fact that illegaly uploaded movies, TV hows, anime, videoclips and even commercials pop up every second on the Tube, along with the fact that they have millions of users, made it notorious. The Tube is a big precedent, and that's reason number 5 why it's dangerous.
