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Postby salemshady » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:16 pm

how do i get the screen to shake? u know like the earthquake feel! i am using vegas by teh way!thanks
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Postby salemshady » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:17 pm

by shaking the screen.. i actually meant: the video clip! sorry
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Postby Gepetto » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:23 pm

What you want to do is use the motion control to change the position of the image on-screen to random values through random (but small) intervals of time. For example, it shifts five frames up and two left for five frames, then three frames later it goes down six frames and right four.

I'm not familiar enough with Vegas to tell you where the motion controls are, but they exist and you probably know already. If you don't, they shouldn't be really hard to find.
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Postby CrackTheSky » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:01 pm

Use the pan/crop editor and move the screen slightly every couple frames. If you need me to elaborate, I can do so.
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Postby Minion » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:35 pm

only had to use shakey frames once. tried to do it with motion in premiere, but it looked like crap.
so i went to school and made the clip i needed in imovie, which has the earthquake effect. exported the dv to my jump drive, took it home, and added it into the video.
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Postby TaranT » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:41 pm

Jump up and down while Vegas is rendering.

Or read this: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=67088
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Postby salemshady » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:00 pm

TaranT wrote:Jump up and down while Vegas is rendering.

Or read this: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=67088


hahah.. took me a while to figure what u really meant there.. but funny still
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Postby salemshady » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:04 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:Use the pan/crop editor and move the screen slightly every couple frames. If you need me to elaborate, I can do so.

i cant say i am very comfortable with pan/crop but ive played around with it and it doesnt seem too hard. but yeah .. it'd be awesome if you could elaborate, because i cant figure out how to work with frames a lot.
honestly.. the only thing i've done with pan crop so far is
1)zooming in on a clip
2)change the aspect ratio.
thats basically all the experience i have with pan/crop. but there is one link i will go through tonight that someone suggested here on this thread... i'll let u know if i need more help!
thankx everyone!
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Postby salemshady » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:14 pm

ok so i went through that thread and i tried the jitter effect and played around with it.. but its doesnt look random enough.. it only jitters up adn down... i was looking for something more random.. like shake all over the place.. lol

anyway.. i got another question now: i want to show u guys where i have trouble with pan/crop.. i got it alt print scrned to paint.. now i am wondering how i can post it up here!
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Postby Kariudo » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:31 pm

save it as a .jpg
go to http://imageshack.us/
upload image
post link (the direct link)
Code: Select all
[img]place the url here[/img]


if your image is bigger than 800x600, post the thumbnail instead of the direct link
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Postby salemshady » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:50 pm

Kariudo wrote:save it as a .jpg
go to http://imageshack.us/
upload image
post link (the direct link)
Code: Select all
[img]place the url here[/img]


if your image is bigger than 800x600, post the thumbnail instead of the direct link


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there!! thats the link to the picture.. and thanx kariudo!
now how do you work with those? do i actually move each frame out of the designated box and get me the earthquake effect? is that how time consuming amv making really is? :)
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Postby CrackTheSky » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:27 pm

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Ok. That thing that I boxed out in red is the scrubber. When you move it left or right, the scene changes accordingly. It is exactly like the scrubber on the timeline. I'm sure you have this all figured out, so I won't elaborate more.

Any time you manipulate a frame in the pan/crop a diamond will appear below the scrubber on the frame you manipulated, like so:

Image

This diamond is called a "keyframe", and any manipulations you make to any frame will put a keyframe there to indicate where a change has been made. Now, to get the effect you want, start at the first frame of your clip. Click on the picture and hold it down and move the dotted box around the frame to change its position.

This is its original position:
Image

This is its new position:
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Now move your scrubber a few frames to the right and move the dotted box to a new position, making small or large movements depending on how dramatic you want the effect to be. At the end your pan/crop timeline should have a lot of keyframes, and will look something like this:

Image

Note that if you want to make your earthquake effect to not move the frames off the screen (creating a black background) then you'll have to reduce the size of the dotted box by clicking and dragging one of the corners of the box, and make sure that the edges never go outside the boundary of the frame you're manipulating.

Hope this helped!
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Postby salemshady » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:02 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:Image

Ok. That thing that I boxed out in red is the scrubber. When you move it left or right, the scene changes accordingly. It is exactly like the scrubber on the timeline. I'm sure you have this all figured out, so I won't elaborate more.

Any time you manipulate a frame in the pan/crop a diamond will appear below the scrubber on the frame you manipulated, like so:

Image

This diamond is called a "keyframe", and any manipulations you make to any frame will put a keyframe there to indicate where a change has been made. Now, to get the effect you want, start at the first frame of your clip. Click on the picture and hold it down and move the dotted box around the frame to change its position.

This is its original position:
Image

This is its new position:
Image

Now move your scrubber a few frames to the right and move the dotted box to a new position, making small or large movements depending on how dramatic you want the effect to be. At the end your pan/crop timeline should have a lot of keyframes, and will look something like this:

Image

Note that if you want to make your earthquake effect to not move the frames off the screen (creating a black background) then you'll have to reduce the size of the dotted box by clicking and dragging one of the corners of the box, and make sure that the edges never go outside the boundary of the frame you're manipulating.

Hope this helped!



wow.. i am speechless.. you guys are the best!! sheesh.... i am overwhelmed .. lol.. thank you so much.. i am not letting ur effort go to waste.. i am staying up all night.. and coming up with atleast one decent 10 clip using pan and crop!!!
thankx a lot man.. i couldnt have explained it any better in 10 lifetimes!
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Postby salemshady » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:02 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:Image

Ok. That thing that I boxed out in red is the scrubber. When you move it left or right, the scene changes accordingly. It is exactly like the scrubber on the timeline. I'm sure you have this all figured out, so I won't elaborate more.

Any time you manipulate a frame in the pan/crop a diamond will appear below the scrubber on the frame you manipulated, like so:

Image

This diamond is called a "keyframe", and any manipulations you make to any frame will put a keyframe there to indicate where a change has been made. Now, to get the effect you want, start at the first frame of your clip. Click on the picture and hold it down and move the dotted box around the frame to change its position.

This is its original position:
Image

This is its new position:
Image

Now move your scrubber a few frames to the right and move the dotted box to a new position, making small or large movements depending on how dramatic you want the effect to be. At the end your pan/crop timeline should have a lot of keyframes, and will look something like this:

Image

Note that if you want to make your earthquake effect to not move the frames off the screen (creating a black background) then you'll have to reduce the size of the dotted box by clicking and dragging one of the corners of the box, and make sure that the edges never go outside the boundary of the frame you're manipulating.

Hope this helped!



wow.. i am speechless.. you guys are the best!! sheesh.... i am overwhelmed .. lol.. thank you so much.. i am not letting ur effort go to waste.. i am staying up all night.. and coming up with atleast one decent 10 clip using pan and crop!!!
thankx a lot man.. i couldnt have explained it any better in 10 lifetimes!
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Postby salemshady » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:11 pm

i mean 10 second clip.. anyway.. one more question.. this time its simpler..
i eventually found out how to increase the duration for a transition on vegas.. but i am still stuck on how i can change the duration for a video effect... what i do is just split up the clips so i can use the effect for that particular clip. is that the best way to do it? because the more clips i split the slower my project gets on preview. so i was thinking if there was any other way .. but this one is no big deal.
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