Problems with Eazy VCD

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Problems with Eazy VCD

Postby topgamer101 » Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:58 pm

It's a free program to rip dvds to use for my amv making. On my laptop it worked perfectly, however took awhile. Now on my new desktop with LCD moniter, it goes much faster. However, the end result is a video quality that isn't very good. Even on the highest quality setting it still seems to come out with those boxes that you can see as the picture or characters move.

Does anyone have any suggestions or a solution to this? If not can someone reccomend an inexpensive program I can buy to replace it? thank you
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Postby Kariudo » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:01 pm

how 'bout dvd Decrypter
it's free, and you can still get it with the amvapp or on www.doom9.net
(click downloads, and then click on descrambling/ripping tools
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Postby topgamer101 » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:02 pm

Kariudo wrote:how 'bout dvd Decrypter
it's free, and you can still get it with the amvapp or on www.doom9.net
(click downloads, and then click on descrambling/ripping tools


I thought I tried that once with bad results, but I'll give it a try. Thank you
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Postby topgamer101 » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:50 pm

topgamer101 wrote:
Kariudo wrote:how 'bout dvd Decrypter
it's free, and you can still get it with the amvapp or on www.doom9.net
(click downloads, and then click on descrambling/ripping tools


I thought I tried that once with bad results, but I'll give it a try. Thank you


Ok so I've tried it, but now it's ripped it into file types I can't use. Anyone know how I can rip it to mpeg or wmv files?
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Postby madbunny » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:56 pm

topgamer101 wrote:
topgamer101 wrote:
Kariudo wrote:how 'bout dvd Decrypter
it's free, and you can still get it with the amvapp or on www.doom9.net
(click downloads, and then click on descrambling/ripping tools


I thought I tried that once with bad results, but I'll give it a try. Thank you


Ok so I've tried it, but now it's ripped it into file types I can't use. Anyone know how I can rip it to mpeg or wmv files?


It's a multistep process.

You rip the disk w/ dvd decryptor
You then use VirtualDubMod to save the file in whatever manner suits your purpose. (EG: resize to 512x384 or 640x480)


Without going overboard, doing it this way has a lot of advantages, such as being able to filter your footage, cut out sound etc, plus you assure yourself that you're getting the best possible file that you can.
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Postby topgamer101 » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:57 pm

madbunny wrote:
topgamer101 wrote:
topgamer101 wrote:
Kariudo wrote:how 'bout dvd Decrypter
it's free, and you can still get it with the amvapp or on www.doom9.net
(click downloads, and then click on descrambling/ripping tools


I thought I tried that once with bad results, but I'll give it a try. Thank you


Ok so I've tried it, but now it's ripped it into file types I can't use. Anyone know how I can rip it to mpeg or wmv files?


It's a multistep process.

You rip the disk w/ dvd decryptor
You then use VirtualDubMod to save the file in whatever manner suits your purpose. (EG: resize to 512x384 or 640x480)


Without going overboard, doing it this way has a lot of advantages, such as being able to filter your footage, cut out sound etc, plus you assure yourself that you're getting the best possible file that you can.


Ok I'll look up the virtualdub thing then, thanks
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Postby topgamer101 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:05 am

ok so I used both the programs and I've got perfect dvd quality video saved to avi format. My editing program supports avi, but when I go to add media and try and add it, it just stalls on the adding part. It doesn't freeze, but it won't actually add the video.

I miss my old program right now :(
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Postby Kariudo » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:18 am

the way I see it, you can either have ease of use or superior quality and control.

it's a little more work, but most people would agree that the extra work is worth it.

I'm guessing that you encoded your avi files with divx or xvid...both of which are bad for editing. you can take clips in vritualdub(/mod) and encode those with a lossless codec such as huffyuv or lagarith.

you probably wouldn't have the space (or other cpu resources) to handle entire episodes encoded with huffyuv or lagarith.

for more info, check out EADFAG
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Postby topgamer101 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:27 am

Kariudo wrote:the way I see it, you can either have ease of use or superior quality and control.

it's a little more work, but most people would agree that the extra work is worth it.

I'm guessing that you encoded your avi files with divx or xvid...both of which are bad for editing. you can take clips in vritualdub(/mod) and encode those with a lossless codec such as huffyuv or lagarith.

you probably wouldn't have the space (or other cpu resources) to handle entire episodes encoded with huffyuv or lagarith.

for more info, check out EADFAG


I used VirtualDubMod. And I just want something that will rip perfect dvd quality files. That's it. (That and something that will actually load into my editing program)
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Postby Kariudo » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:41 am

unfortunately it's often not that easy, if you want dvd quality it'l take some work.

But depending on the series, even "dvd quality" can suck (which then takes more work to clean it up and appear good)

EADFAG is a very good guide, and every program mentioned is free (minus the editing program...but you already have that)
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Postby topgamer101 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:46 am

Kariudo wrote:unfortunately it's often not that easy, if you want dvd quality it'l take some work.

But depending on the series, even "dvd quality" can suck (which then takes more work to clean it up and appear good)

EADFAG is a very good guide, and every program mentioned is free (minus the editing program...but you already have that)


My old program would rip it full dvd on one file and on my laptop would make it look dvd perfect. But if these new progams won't let me load the file into my editer then they are pretty useless to me. I'll do some reading but if I can't find a solution I probably won't use them.

Thanks anyway for the info
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Postby Willen » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:55 am

topgamer101 wrote:My old program would rip it full dvd on one file and on my laptop would make it look dvd perfect. But if these new progams won't let me load the file into my editer then they are pretty useless to me. I'll do some reading but if I can't find a solution I probably won't use them.

Thanks anyway for the info


Don't delude yourself, VCD, SVCD and the other VCD-varients that Eazy VCD produce aren't "DVD perfect". This is why on your new desktop computer and LCD monitor the resultant video "isn't very good" with "those boxes" (macroblocking).

What program are you using for editing? I assume WMM since you mention mpeg and wmv files (which imports MPEG-1 (VCD), WMV, and AVI files*). Since DVDs contain VOB files (wrapped MPEG-2 video and audio) you'll need to convert them to something WMM can use. MPEG-1 isn't considered very good quality nowadays (as you noticed), and I don't know of any free DVD-to-WMV converters (not that I recommend using vanilla WMV for footage), AVI files with video encoded in an editing-friendly codec are the way to go (Huffyuv, Lagarith, or for the people with massive amounts of HDD space - Uncompressed).

As Kariudo mentioned, for quality video you will have to do some work. But the results are generally worth it and after a few times, doing the steps detailed here: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... ogetb.html become easy.
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Postby topgamer101 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:11 pm

Willen wrote:
topgamer101 wrote:My old program would rip it full dvd on one file and on my laptop would make it look dvd perfect. But if these new progams won't let me load the file into my editer then they are pretty useless to me. I'll do some reading but if I can't find a solution I probably won't use them.

Thanks anyway for the info


Don't delude yourself, VCD, SVCD and the other VCD-varients that Eazy VCD produce aren't "DVD perfect". This is why on your new desktop computer and LCD monitor the resultant video "isn't very good" with "those boxes" (macroblocking).

What program are you using for editing? I assume WMM since you mention mpeg and wmv files (which imports MPEG-1 (VCD), WMV, and AVI files*). Since DVDs contain VOB files (wrapped MPEG-2 video and audio) you'll need to convert them to something WMM can use. MPEG-1 isn't considered very good quality nowadays (as you noticed), and I don't know of any free DVD-to-WMV converters (not that I recommend using vanilla WMV for footage), AVI files with video encoded in an editing-friendly codec are the way to go (Huffyuv, Lagarith, or for the people with massive amounts of HDD space - Uncompressed).

As Kariudo mentioned, for quality video you will have to do some work. But the results are generally worth it and after a few times, doing the steps detailed here: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... ogetb.html become easy.


Actually my editer is Adobe Premiere Elements 1.0 (thinking of upgrading) I did wonder if my new LCD moniter somehow made it look like that. I'm working with uncompressed because I have plenty of space at the moment, however I'm still trying to find a way to load it into the program. I'm ripping some new files now and am going to see if Elements will let me load them in.
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Postby topgamer101 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:11 pm

topgamer101 wrote:
Willen wrote:
topgamer101 wrote:My old program would rip it full dvd on one file and on my laptop would make it look dvd perfect. But if these new progams won't let me load the file into my editer then they are pretty useless to me. I'll do some reading but if I can't find a solution I probably won't use them.

Thanks anyway for the info


Don't delude yourself, VCD, SVCD and the other VCD-varients that Eazy VCD produce aren't "DVD perfect". This is why on your new desktop computer and LCD monitor the resultant video "isn't very good" with "those boxes" (macroblocking).

What program are you using for editing? I assume WMM since you mention mpeg and wmv files (which imports MPEG-1 (VCD), WMV, and AVI files*). Since DVDs contain VOB files (wrapped MPEG-2 video and audio) you'll need to convert them to something WMM can use. MPEG-1 isn't considered very good quality nowadays (as you noticed), and I don't know of any free DVD-to-WMV converters (not that I recommend using vanilla WMV for footage), AVI files with video encoded in an editing-friendly codec are the way to go (Huffyuv, Lagarith, or for the people with massive amounts of HDD space - Uncompressed).

As Kariudo mentioned, for quality video you will have to do some work. But the results are generally worth it and after a few times, doing the steps detailed here: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... ogetb.html become easy.


Actually my editer is Adobe Premiere Elements 1.0 (thinking of upgrading) I did wonder if my new LCD moniter somehow made it look like that. I'm working with uncompressed because I have plenty of space at the moment, however I'm still trying to find a way to load it into the program. I'm ripping some new files now and am going to see if Elements will let me load them in.


I've tried using the compresses that you suggested before, but no matter how I do this proccess, it will not load into my editing program. Causes alot of frustration honstly. It's great that it's good quality video, but useless if I can't edit it.
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Postby Kariudo » Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:12 pm

you're in virtualdub(/mod) right?

when you find a clip that you want, you go to file-save as.
unless you are saving the footage as uncompressed you are using a codec to encode your footage.

if that codec is divx or xvid, your avi files won't work in your editing program.
you should use a lossless codec like Lagairth or HuffYuv (get the pre-built dll, and be sure to read the page so you know how to install it)
this tells you how to make clips in virtualdubmod, please read through this thoroughly (for what that last page didn't cover, this one should)
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